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Old 07-13-2013, 10:44 PM
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douche lied about using MQ2 cheats ... then expects us to believe his other shit? fuck that.

HE cant eat a bag of hell along with all his "information". If there's proof Rogean is involved in RMT as he claims then I feel bad for nilbog and am disappointed in Rogean but wouldn't be surprised considering the number of RMTers coming back from EQMac and re-rolling.

This guy needs to die because of DDoS/cheats. He claims he isn't behind the DDoS attacks... BULLSHIT! NOtice they stopped during his interview? Coincidence? I think not.
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Old 07-13-2013, 10:54 PM
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It didn't matter if I openly admitted to using MQ2 for my knife exploit or not. It doesn't change the overall message I am getting across. I didn't meet stabbyjoe until after I got the MQ2 hacks. The accounts that were using my exploit the TMO ones) have had access to them for a long long time, and if the system truly flags people who use them they would have been banned months ago.

My public reputation won't matter once everything is said and done. The same thing happened when I said I had exploits. My popularity plummeted until I followed through. The GMs got involved, spread their rhetoric, my popularity went down. I will deliver more soon and my popularity will go back up. I don't care about public opinion. I don't care about my accounts. I care about the people who are spending so much time and effort on a fraudulent operation that may be criminal in nature. They didn't make the server for you guys to have fun. They made the server, set some chosen people up to dominate the server, and propagated the population enough to allow real money to be made.

Sirken "IP Banned" me yesterday. What did he do to Platlord? Why is Platlord back so quickly? Why is Sirken choosing to turn a blind eye to RMT? Why does the issue of TMO using exploits get pushed aside in lieu of me being ambiguous about what kind of exploit program I was using?

Think about this rationally. What do I really have to gain here? I've already lost whatever I have to lose. I might not actually be out to get you, you know.
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They made the server, set some chosen people up to dominate the server, and propagated the population enough to allow real money to be made.
This. This post right here is the most tinfoil covered post I've seen since I've been lurking and very infrequently posting on these forums. You don't just wear the tinfoil hat. You are the tinfoil hat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0


It doesn't take a genius to figure out what's going to happen with your account:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5QGkOGZubQ
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:18 PM
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It didn't matter if I openly admitted to using MQ2 for my knife exploit or not. It doesn't change the overall message I am getting across.
Yes, it does. It proves you have a tendency to lie. And you currently aren't getting any point across. A lot of statements with nothing backing them up.

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The accounts that were using my exploit (the TMO ones) have had access to them for a long long time, and if the system truly flags people who use them they would have been banned months ago.
I'm not sure if you were listening to Rogean in your own interview. He said there were people hiding their MQ2 usage, tampering with DLL files. Those accounts were recently flagged for this and are being investigated. Do we have any idea if they're the same people you're talking about? Absolutely not. But neither do you. There's no way for anyone to know that, since you continue to be vague and the staff isn't exactly going to send you lists of people they suspect of RMT.

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The same thing happened when I said I had exploits. My popularity plummeted until I followed through.
You didn't follow through. You conned a bunch of people in EC by using MQ2 while claiming you had no idea what it was and that anyone could freely do those same things.

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The GMs got involved, spread their rhetoric, my popularity went down.
No, you lost the faith you had gained when you lied to people. If you were reading the chat on Twitch you would notice your popularity turned south the moment Rogean called out your MQ2 usage. That wasn't rhetoric.

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I don't care about my accounts.
Not caring and understand you won't get them back are two different things. Of course you care about your account. You should. It's natural. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. Yet another reason that logical people are suspicious.

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Sirken "IP Banned" me yesterday. What did he do to Platlord? Why is Platlord back so quickly?
Because Platlord can google "IP ban workaround"? It's not complicated.

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Why is Sirken choosing to turn a blind eye to RMT?
You can't say he ignores it completely because you just admitted Platlord had action taken against him. Hell, there was a big post on the front page regarding it on May 1st I believe. I'm sure it helped dissuade a few folks from contemplating using real cash. If he ignores small-time RMT I'm completely fine with that. As for the big stuff? Maybe because people like you take forever actually relaying information?

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Why does the issue of TMO using exploits get pushed aside in lieu of me being ambiguous about what kind of exploit program I was using?
That's your fault. Your original claim to fame was that TMO was using undetectable exploits that you would show the server. Your account was detected using these exploits. So the point is disproven.

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Think about this rationally. What do I really have to gain here? I've already lost whatever I have to lose. I might not actually be out to get you, you know.
You have nothing to gain. That's the point. Give the GMs what you have or post it. Whatever. As it is you're simply a distraction when the server gets shit on. You have nothing to gain or lose by just showing your hand. Get it over with already.

I'm ignoring this thread from here on because you fail to grasp simple concepts, so there's no reason to further those conversations. Things can only be explained so many different ways before you have to realize that the person just isn't open to looking at the situation objectively. Have fun. I'll be back (with everyone else, I'm sure) if you ever post the information and it matters at all.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:42 PM
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This guy is clearly full of shit. He very clearly said in Tiggles' stream that he was not currently or ever using MQ2 and didn't know what it was, but then when Rogean called out our lovable loser Zack, he admited that he did use MQ2 and knew all about nodelay.dll, etc. Then he went back to saying over and over "i have no idea what that is". He's a fucking idiot, 'nough said.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:49 PM
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He's a fucking idiot, 'nough said.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:51 PM
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Guys, it's obvious ZipZop is part of the problem. No kidding! That doesn't mean this isn't the tip of a real iceberg. How else would he know anything unless he himself was involved? His motivation is not the point. The only point is getting to the bottom of the RMT/GM stuff, and the guilt or otherwise of guild/guild members. Everything else is pure rhetoric/spin/white noise, and honestly the fact that the GMs and Tiggle spent so much time on it makes me pretty suspicious as to their motives (and from what I gather Tiggle has a pretty chequered past in these matters anyway - how naive is everyone being and why are GMs offering him so much play?)

Sirken said afterwards that he wasn't that concerned about RMT if it kept people on the server. Seriously? All these cries for hard evidence just sound like subterfuge and guilty lawyering to me. It's not that hard to confirm the existence of this stuff and who's responsible, if it's happening.

Anyone who watched and listened impartially yesterday - heck anyone who reads the forums - would have come away with the uncomforting impression that there is a general lack of will to find and reveal the truth, and an enormous desire to confuse the issues with endless debate. That isn't how honest people behave.
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Old 07-13-2013, 11:53 PM
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It is a good fresh of breath, that when someone comes to flame the server--everyone regardless of guild affiliation sticks together to make this person look dumb.
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:08 AM
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It is a good fresh of breath, that when someone comes to flame the server--everyone regardless of guild affiliation sticks together to make this person look dumb.
Now that's serious community bonding.
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Old 07-14-2013, 12:52 AM
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It is a good fresh of breath, that when someone comes to flame the server--everyone regardless of guild affiliation sticks together to make this person look dumb.
Zipzop doing gods work
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Old 07-14-2013, 01:02 AM
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...Anyone who watched and listened impartially yesterday - heck anyone who reads the forums - would have come away with the uncomforting impression that there is a general lack of will to find and reveal the truth, and an enormous desire to confuse the issues with endless debate. That isn't how honest people behave.

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Admins: "Give us the information or make it public."

Zippitydoda: "I...I cannot do that. I need to hold a lot of this secret until the time is right."

Admins: "Give us the information, make it public, if you're unwilling to follow the proper channels."

Zippityshitbags: "I...I...I mean what would you do with the information?."

Admins: "..."

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Tolkien: "OH MY GOSH GUYS THERE IS SO MERCH CONSPIRACY I AM GOING TO HAVE DIARRHEA ALL NIGHT. THE ADMISN LIKE JUST WANT THIS HUGE DEBATE."

**Tolkien tabs back to Prison Planet**
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