Request for relaunch

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Could make crossteaming a bannable offense, like 2-boxing. Or make the offenders FFA, so they can be killed by their former team and are unable to guild/group with anyone. That'd be a lot like banning, but much more interesting.

Are you volunteering to be impartial? and Fair?

Just make it impossible for heals to land on enemy teams, problem fixed. If 2 teams want to dps the same enemy thats not a problem.

Or if they decided to attack the same raid..

But the problem with <Teams> is your trying to enforce a playstyle on an entire server. I liked sullons teams. They worked fine for the most part, except the huge imbalance and noobs greifed off in 1 day if they strayed out of their safe zone. Might work better with + and - four levels.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by runlvlzero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you volunteering to be impartial? and Fair?

Just make it impossible for heals to land on enemy teams, problem fixed. If 2 teams want to dps the same enemy thats not a problem.

Or if they decided to attack the same raid..

But the problem with <Teams> is your trying to enforce a playstyle on an entire server. I liked sullons teams. They worked fine for the most part, except the huge imbalance and noobs greifed off in 1 day if they strayed out of their safe zone. Might work better with + and - four levels.

Crossteaming could (and would) happen with hardcoded teams. Rogue DPS for raids, and stuff. So on Faerie's pvp teams server they would be gravely punished.

[Ebony]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SZ teams:
Evils lacked ranger, paladin, druid
Goods and Neuts both lacked SK, necro

I prefer VZ teams for nostalgic reasons, but the SZ teams would be better in actuality.

SZ was only slightly better in class split. Over all Teams split on SZ was total fail & worse then VZ Teams imo. It was like a 2 team server where the "Good" Team was cut into 3rds. 2 of the 3rds being merged into Team Neut & the last 3rd being called Team Good. Good Team had ZERO Team only races while team evil had a BUNCH & I think neut had one or two. Having a Team only race is HUGE for any Team. Each Team needs the same number of Team only races.

On top of that, evil team not only had WAY more team only races but also had 2 team only classes. While Good & Neut had none. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

SZ teams were a complete disaster at launch because of the extreme imbalanced teams that only the most braindead of rocks should have missed. SonyDev = one of the less intelligent species of rock. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If any Devs want to look like complete fools, just recreate the OMGFAIL teams of SZ. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ebony]

Originally Posted by Faerie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Half elves are all part of the elf team. On VZ the only deity they could pick was Tunare, lol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And why would elven tanks be underpowered? For the longest time, my live guild's MT was a wood elf warrior. Then I went xteam and most of our raid MTs were dark elf warriors, who have worse stats than wood elves.

Ogre hp/stun immunity is a decent bonus to playing the race, but not at all necessary.

EDIT: And VZ teams weren't very well balanced

Elves lacked monk, shaman, necro, SK
Humans had all classes
Shorts lacked ranger, bard, SK, shaman, monk
Darks lacked bard, ranger, paladin, druid

I would Love a Hard Coded Tallon Zek/Vallon Zek server with better Class Balance among teams.

Human Team is good as is with all classes

Add Gnome SK, Gnome Monk, Halfling Bard & Halfling Shaman to Short

Add Half Elf SK, Half Elf Shaman & Wood Elf Monk to Elves

Dark Team is OP with 4 races but you could add Dark Elf Bards if you wanted.

That would be a Really Fun server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Ebony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would Love a Hard Coded Tallon Zek/Vallon Zek server with better Class Balance among teams.

Human Team is good as is with all classes

Add Gnome SK, Gnome Monk, Halfling Bard & Halfling Shaman to Short

Add Half Elf SK, Half Elf Shaman & Wood Elf Monk to Elves

Dark Team is OP with 4 races but you could add Dark Elf Bards if you wanted.

That would be a Really Fun server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like a decent mix. Halfing shamans eeewww ;p... I would do dwarf shamans instead.

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Ebony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gnome SK

Ebony raises a very good point.

[Gustoo]

Racial teams with new race/class combo's to correct imbalance is the only feasible way, but I still feel it is a futile effort. Teams on EQ were never implemented well even in EQ hayday, and we are still trying to hammer out the basics of NPC aggro in cities and a reasonable resist structure.

Meanwhile devs working tirelessly to remove compass (CHECK) and destroy immersion by nerfing halfling hide back to what it apparently was on live. Halfling hide works 100% vs undead IRL based on my experiences watching the fellowship of the ring.

The only server I could see p99 staff putting out in the near future would be a hardcore permadeath server.

[pharmakos]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Halfling hide works 100% vs undead IRL based on my experiences watching the fellowship of the ring..

bahahahahaha







imo tho still the only new server that should start is combo Fironia Ve + Rallos Zek rules

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only server I could see p99 staff putting out in the near future would be a hardcore permadeath server.

Did you see my YT for good deeds server idea? We're just geeking out now, talking about dream servers. It's fun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Racial teams with new race/class combo's to correct imbalance is the only feasible way, but I still feel it is a futile effort. Teams on EQ were never implemented well even in EQ hayday, and we are still trying to hammer out the basics of NPC aggro in cities and a reasonable resist structure.

Meanwhile devs working tirelessly to remove compass (CHECK) and destroy immersion by nerfing halfling hide back to what it apparently was on live. Halfling hide works 100% vs undead IRL based on my experiences watching the fellowship of the ring.

The way I see it, a proper teams server was never done in EQ. VZ and TZ were coded in such a way that crossteaming and a sort of FFA social climate were inevitable. SZ had hardcoded teams that made crossteaming very difficult, and their teams were more balanced than VZ/TZ (even though evil team may have had a big advantage still). They really seemed set to have a very interesting and fun basis for a true teams server, but then they had to get all creative about it and decided to throw out the Play Nice Policy. Trains, corpse camping and overall griefiness will killl anything great in EQ.

If a server had the potential population for it, I don't think it would be all that difficult to do a teams server right. I still think they should delete the blue server and make a fresh teams pvp server for everyone to enjoy. That place seems to have become an overcrowded cesspool of unfriendly loot whores anyway; may as well turn the pvp on and let them have at it.

I'm in love with the race teams of VZ, though. There's just something romantic about elf team and their insatiable lust for the blood of those that would do harm to animals, or the environment. It was like a militarized PETA, and besides being completely hilarious it made fun RP as easy as being an ogre with a speech impediment.

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