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Old 12-09-2018, 10:51 AM
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sc thinks getting raped and getting punched in the face are the same thing
Getting raped because you went to live in a rapists crack den is not getting raped.
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I believe in you.
belief in people is dangerous and in most cases setting yourself up for disappointment, that's also how cults happen. ideas and principles on the other hand...
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:16 AM
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Getting raped because you went to live in a rapists crack den is not getting raped.
it is, actually. there's absolutely no excuse or reason for rape. and the unfortunate reality is that capitalism didn't value her enough to do anything about it, because she wasn't worth much to the system. genuinely tragic. the idea that you do no harm by victim blaming is profoundly obtuse. i sincerely hope you never have to experience what that woman went through.
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:28 AM
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it is, actually. there's absolutely no excuse or reason for rape. and the unfortunate reality is that capitalism didn't value her enough to do anything about it, because she wasn't worth much to the system. genuinely tragic. the idea that you do no harm by victim blaming is profoundly obtuse. i sincerely hope you never have to experience what that woman went through.
so it may just be like you know your IQ isn't high enough to understand the words that are coming out of my mouth.

But saying that somebody made errors in judgment which resulted in them being harmed is not

"Making an excuse for rape"

Like when your daughter sneaks out of the house to go hang out with that boy that you told her would rape her and she gets raped, that's her fault.

it's also your fault for not putting bars on her window and punishing her well enough so that she actually listens to you.

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It's not saying hey rape is good and you should allow for it sometimes!

It is saying there is such thing as rape so don't do these things so you can avoid it.

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There's a huge difference between someone who is raped by a trusted friend or a stranger where they never saw it coming, compared to someone who made very poor decisions that it was very clear they were going to end up getting or harmed
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:33 AM
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I mean it doesn't make any sense the liberal can say hey there are consequences to your actions if you say you like Trump than you deserve to be fired...

but then when it comes to someone moving into a crack den and living with thieves drug addicts criminals and rapists...

... Or get super blackout drunk at a fraternity party where it's known amongst the entire campus that students are way less promiscuous to the point of sexual assault...

Then suddenly there are no consequences to your actions???
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:39 AM
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sc thinks getting raped and getting punched in the face are the same thing
No, victim blaming is the same.

No matter if you are talking about someone being punched or raped.

Both ignore the responsibility of the attacker.
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:44 AM
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so it may just be like you know your IQ isn't high enough to understand the words that are coming out of my mouth.

But saying that somebody made errors in judgment which resulted in them being harmed is not

"Making an excuse for rape"

Like when your daughter sneaks out of the house to go hang out with that boy that you told her would rape her and she gets raped, that's her fault.

it's also your fault for not putting bars on her window and punishing her well enough so that she actually listens to you.

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It's not saying hey rape is good and you should allow for it sometimes!

It is saying there is such thing as rape so don't do these things so you can avoid it.

..

There's a huge difference between someone who is raped by a trusted friend or a stranger where they never saw it coming, compared to someone who made very poor decisions that it was very clear they were going to end up getting or harmed
no, it's the boy's fault for raping, cut and dry. it's a crime to violate someone's consent. as it should be.
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:44 AM
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It doesn't matter these people think there are consequences to speech but then there is no consequences for anything else.

How can you reason with someone that is that blatant with their hypocrisy?
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:52 AM
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why can't there be consequences for someone committing a harmful act against someone, mick?
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Old 12-09-2018, 12:01 PM
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I think I figured it out. you have a misunderstanding where you think people that say "crime exists" means "crime should exist"

you're not listening to the people you're talking to not just me literally every single person in your life you're not listening to them you're projecting your own fears and concerns and guilt onto them.

It's what liberals do you live in this pathological guilt-ridden world that you can't even listen to reason because you immediately try to jump to some sort of penitence where you bend over and apologize for whatever horrible thing you must have done to some minority or some victim at some point, any pint, in your past.

if you know the murderer is out there so you say don't go out there and when someone goes out there you go you stupid idiot I told you the murderer was out there!

you are not saying you stupid idiot I told you I wanted murderers out there!

I can't believe I have to explain this to someone who literally will explain or has explained on this forum that there are consequences to speech.

You clearly understand what I'm saying you're just too clogged up with guilt to let it in.
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