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Old 09-02-2011, 12:18 AM
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Default iksar regen necro worth it?

i want to reroll level 45 necro, is it worth it ?
how much regen at level 60 for iksar?
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:35 AM
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Yes, the regen is worth it.

The tradeoff is the low starting INT, which means a smaller mana pool, and the negative xp mod. The basic rule of thumb on Iksar regen is that it'll let you run the next-to-best mana conversion spell you have all the time without really losing much (if any) HP at all. Stack HP gear instead of INT and focus on turning HP into as many spells as you need.
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:02 AM
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Yes, the regen is worth it.

The tradeoff is the low starting INT, which means a smaller mana pool, and the negative xp mod. The basic rule of thumb on Iksar regen is that it'll let you run the next-to-best mana conversion spell you have all the time without really losing much (if any) HP at all. Stack HP gear instead of INT and focus on turning HP into as many spells as you need.
he's asking if it's worth rerolling at lv45 to go iksar.

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Old 09-02-2011, 01:06 AM
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he's asking if it's worth rerolling at lv45 to go iksar
The answer was yes.

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Yes, the regen is worth it.
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:35 AM
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reason why iskars get neg exp. Yes it's worth it......so|o wise, group wise it won't make much differance
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Old 09-02-2011, 12:37 AM
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It matters a lot, in my opinion as a dark elf necromancer. I have iksar envy. Then again, you level slower, but you'll always be more powerful at the same level.
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:08 AM
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at 45? to throw away...how many days of playtime?

just seems stupid to me
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:12 AM
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Rerolling at 45 isn't worth it. While the regeneration and AC boost are pretty nice, think about things like having to faction grind just to bank near the tunnel. Sometimes convenience outweighs small benefits.
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:26 AM
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Are you insane? Scrap a lvl 45 because of regen from another race?

* Natural Regeneration: Iksar regenerate faster than humans.

Human Level: standing, feigned, sitting

1-19: 1, 1, 2

20-49: 1, 1, 3

50: 1, 1, 4

51-55: 2, 3, 5

56-59: 3, 4, 6

60: 4, 5, 7

Iksar Level: standing, feigned, sitting

1-19: 2, 2, 4

20-49: 2, 2, 6

50: 2, 2, 8

51-55: 6, 8, 12

56-59: 10, 12, 16

60: 12, 14, 18

* Experience: Iksar require 20% more experience than Humans per level. This means for every 5 kills a Human makes, an Iksar must kill 6 to make the same progress.


At 60 your talking about a 11 hp difference sitting down per tick. Thats 11 hp more every 6 seconds to fill up your 2k health bar. Thats 110 hp a min extra.

You want to take a 20% exp cut for that? Every level you would need to earn about another extra yellow bubble just to be an iksar. For 11 hp every 6 seconds more.

Are you insane?
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Old 09-02-2011, 01:49 AM
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Are you insane? Scrap a lvl 45 because of regen from another race?
Upon achieving level 45, you've only accumulated 19% of the xp necessary to reach level 60. Even with the xp penalty, getting the first fifth of your char back isn't really that difficult, especially with a gear and plat jumpstart.

And that 11 point per tick? That's 11 points MORE than the other races. Lich drains 22 hp per tick, which becomes only a 4-hp per tick loss on an Iksar as opposed to 15 on anything else. Demi drains 32, which becomes 14 to an Iksar and 25 to anything else. Necros live in lich when grinding, and taps/dot-taps to get that liched HP back prior to 49 are barely worth the mana your hp paid for them. Add regen to the calculation, however, and you find that your lich pays out more mana, and your taps can be replaced with more efficient dots.

Does it make up for the 19% of a char you'll have to re-play, and the 20% XP hit you'll take? You bet it does. Ten times over.
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