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Old 05-06-2026, 10:33 AM
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Clean up DSM's trash on the Game Mechanics page.

Loramin, you there?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Game_Me...hrowing_damage

He put 200+ Lines of this garbage on the once very simple Game Mechanics page. This page was originally a pretty simple, easy to read guide on the game mechanics, and now has 200+ lines of "examples" and his testing, which ARE NOT HELPFUL to any new players.

Move it to a new page, linked in the Game Mechanics page.
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Old 05-06-2026, 10:34 AM
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Here is a breakdown of the damage calculation in a simplified format. Please note that it is difficult to confirm all of the magic numbers for P99, so a few of them may differ slightly from the EQEMU code. Because of this, the max damage numbers may be a few points off when looking at P99 damage numbers.
(LOL "Simplified" gimme a break)

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142 hits out of 268 hits total are below or at Weapon Damage * 2 / 2 (26 Damage). That is a ~48% chance to hit above Weapon Damage * 2 / 2 (26 Damage).
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Old 05-06-2026, 11:40 AM
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I'm here, but am currently computer-less (NEVER trust Youbreakitifixit with your laptop!)

Since editing the wiki is a hassle on a phone, hopefully someone else can help
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Old 05-06-2026, 11:52 AM
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Wayward is just trolling. The updates to the page are more accurate, and not any worse than the multiple paragraphs that were there before. The page sorely needed an update with acurate information.

Loramin has factually trolled the wiki in the past, and should be removed as a moderator. I hope he doesn't trash the wiki further.
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Old 05-06-2026, 12:16 PM
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Wayward is just trolling. The updates to the page are more accurate, and not any worse than the multiple paragraphs that were there before. The page sorely needed an update with acurate information.

Loramin has factually trolled the wiki in the past, and should be removed as a moderator. I hope he doesn't trash the wiki further.
I don't know what it looked like before hand, but I will admit that the section on melee damage seems.. a bit much.

If I were a new player, I'd be looking for a simplified version of your formulas, and not several different scenarios across different characters. That info is great, but maybe it belongs on a sub-page. It's the only section on the game mechanics page that has that much detail, and I think it makes melee damage seem very complicated - something that might make new players avoid reading it.
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Old 05-06-2026, 12:21 PM
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I don't know what it looked like before hand, but I will admit that the section on melee damage seems.. a bit much.

If I were a new player, I'd be looking for a simplified version of your formulas, and not several different scenarios across different characters. That info is great, but maybe it belongs on a sub-page. It's the only section on the game mechanics page that has that much detail, and I think it makes melee damage seem very complicated - something that might make new players avoid reading it.
The previous page was also hard to read in my opinion, and the formulas were wrong. I'd rather people read the correct informatiom than read "simplified" information that is wrong.

The examples section shows the simplest way to do the formula, which is 6 lines.

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1. Wrath = 244 2Hand Blunt Skill + ((141 STR * 2) - 150) / 3 + 0 Worn ATK + 0 Spell ATK = 288
2. RolledD20 = 20 / 10 = 2
3a. Base Bonus = (288 Wrath - 80 minusFactor) / 2 = 104
3b. Extra Percent = 100 + (104 Base Bonus * 1.0 Random Value) = 204
3c. DamageDone = (38 Weapon Damage * 2 RolledD20 * 204 ExtraPercent) / 100 = 155 rounded down
4. 155 + 18 Main Hand Damage Bonus = 173
The previous page had 8 lines:

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[Max Damage] = ([Mod] x [Weapon Damage]) + [Main Hand Bonus] (rounded down)
[Weapon Damage] is the damage listed on the weapon.
[Main hand bonus] is always 0 for non-melee characters, and weapons wielded in the off-hand.
[Main hand bonus] for one handed weapons is: ([Player Level] - 25) / 3 (rounded down)
[Mod] is calculated as: ([Offense Skill] + [STR]) / 100
If [Mod] is less than 2, then 2 is used instead.
If [Player Level] is less than 10, then [Max Weapon Damage] is capped at 10.
If [Player Level] is less than 20, then [Max Weapon Damage] is capped at 14 (for melee, see lists above).
I don't see how the old section was easier to read.
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Old 05-06-2026, 12:00 PM
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Wiki is down lol
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Old 05-06-2026, 12:25 PM
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Youre a fuckin dumbass, DSM. Keep your formulas. Remove the examples. That's Defo's suggestion, and you double down on your idiocy.

You must be fuckin insufferable IRL.
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Old 05-06-2026, 12:26 PM
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Youre a fuckin dumbass, DSM. Keep your formulas.
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Old 05-06-2026, 12:27 PM
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Good grief. Every thread around here turns into insults so quickly. =/
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