Can torp Shaman reliably solo NG in Seb?

hagglebaby · #1 11-22-2025, 07:21 AM

How would you break into NG if the roamer is a gating frog? Root him a perfect distance away from the closest bug, pulling only one bug, then fight the bug out of LOS. Rinse and repeat for all 3 bugs and just never kill the pather?

I tried to clear the pather but he gated and then summoned me into two other frogs. if i fail, i have to crawl back down which takes forever so looking for the highest chance play in order to not have to gate out and crawl back down.

Snaggles · #2 11-22-2025, 09:56 AM

I haven’t done it but the most economical way would be to fully debuff with Sini and maybe a tash stick and rely on Forlorn Totem stuns. Prepare to cap out if you get a resist.

The “best” play is a puppet string click and to suicide the frog but 2k pp is a lot for the extra QoL over totem clicking.

Vivitron · #3 11-24-2025, 03:54 PM

When I did some NG on a bard who wasn't geared enough to easily kill the pather I just didn't kill the pather. If you kill a scarab more or less in the safe spot the frog wont add (might not work with your pet out?). IIRC the scarabs flee from there, so be prepared.

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I haven’t done it but the most economical way would be to fully debuff with Sini and maybe a tash stick and rely on Forlorn Totem stuns. Prepare to cap out if you get a resist.

The “best” play is a puppet string click and to suicide the frog but 2k pp is a lot for the extra QoL over totem clicking.

Cool idea with the totems, I migth toss a few on my bard for fun.

kjs86z2 · #4 11-24-2025, 12:24 PM

Why do NG as a Shaman?

Get down into the safe spot at Crypt. Camp Heiro.

hagglebaby · #5 11-24-2025, 01:52 PM

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Why do NG as a Shaman?

Get down into the safe spot at Crypt. Camp Heiro.

Yea trying to get there solo. If NG is camped I can skip it but if there are a lot of see invis frogs I have to deal with NG in some capacity i think.

sammoHung · #6 11-24-2025, 02:23 PM

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How would you break into NG if the roamer is a gating frog? Root him a perfect distance away from the closest bug, pulling only one bug, then fight the bug out of LOS. Rinse and repeat for all 3 bugs and just never kill the pather?

I tried to clear the pather but he gated and then summoned me into two other frogs. if i fail, i have to crawl back down which takes forever so looking for the highest chance play in order to not have to gate out and crawl back down.

ive run into the same problem @ NG on my shaman. but one thing i wanted to try but never did --

pull one bug and root it, and fight the frog next to the bug, killing frog first? keep bug rooted with sini and no DoTs so it doesnt summon?

hagglebaby · #7 11-24-2025, 02:59 PM

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ive run into the same problem @ NG on my shaman. but one thing i wanted to try but never did --

pull one bug and root it, and fight the frog next to the bug, killing frog first? keep bug rooted with sini and no DoTs so it doesnt summon?

Yea i think you have a couple options:

Single frog
Double bug
Single bug

Or your way:

Frog and bug
Double bug

If the frog is a shaman it’s pretty rough with the gating and dots and stuff. Maybe my MR gear just isn’t what it should be but a shaman plus a bug sounds pretty tough for where my skill is

DeathsSilkyMist · #8 11-24-2025, 03:15 PM

You can kill the two froglok crypt guards off to the side by the water. If you pull them all the way to where the lower ledge is the pather won't agro you. Once the two guards are down you can tackle the pather if you want to reroll the shaman spawn to something easier to handle.

Resistance gear goes a long way too. Once you can get to 200+ resists self buffed you resist often in Seb. You can stack Talisman of Shadoo and Resist Poison/Green flower for +85/95 poison res for the froglok Shaman's poison spells.

Finally, if you kill gating mobs close enough to their spawn point, they won't gate.

https://youtu.be/qS3uoIHTu_c?si=WKJ_Ga94o-VtiiCx

Here is an example of me killing the pather in the Chardok graveyard. It can gate, but it's spawn point was not too far away to the left, so it never tried gating.

You can also get:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Earring_of_Purity

https://wiki.project1999.com/Earring_of_Cleansing

For manaless cure disease/poison clickies. Then you won't take too much damage from the froglok Shaman's DoTs, even when your resists fail. Hopefully the froglok shaman won't spam the Ice DD too much.

hagglebaby · #9 11-25-2025, 02:44 PM

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You can kill the two froglok crypt guards off to the side by the water. If you pull them all the way to where the lower ledge is the pather won't agro you. Once the two guards are down you can tackle the pather if you want to reroll the shaman spawn to something easier to handle.

This sounds like the direction I might want to go.

Just so I understand, the cycle would be:

Invis past the pather, the bugs and the two frogs by the boulder. Fight the two frogs guarding the ziggurat looking crypt entrance. The seb guardian/golem, perched above, can’t see that fight.

Once those are down, I can pull the pather over there without aggroing the boulder frogs. I’ll fight the pather by the ziggurat entrance.

Once he is down I can invis back past the boulder frogs and start the bugs near the safe spot.

I never have kill the two boulder frogs using this method.

Is that right?

DeathsSilkyMist · #10 11-25-2025, 10:22 PM

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This sounds like the direction I might want to go.

Just so I understand, the cycle would be:

Invis past the pather, the bugs and the two frogs by the boulder. Fight the two frogs guarding the ziggurat looking crypt entrance. The seb guardian/golem, perched above, can’t see that fight.

Once those are down, I can pull the pather over there without aggroing the boulder frogs. I’ll fight the pather by the ziggurat entrance.

Once he is down I can invis back past the boulder frogs and start the bugs near the safe spot.

I never have kill the two boulder frogs using this method.

Is that right?

Yes, this sounds correct. Sometimes one or two boulder frogs can see invis, so you may need to kill one or both if they are.

The other way I've gotten around the boulder frogs is to root the first one at max spell range. They won't agro until the spell lands. Then root the other one and run around the boulder by hugging it. You can apply invis as well before you get too close to the two crypt guards. Then camp the agro at the corner of the wall and the boulder. You should be out of range of the froglok crypt guard's agro. You can also camp at the same lower ledge by the water if the crypt guards don't see invis. It's more risky, but it would allow you to kill the two crypt guards and the pather before tackling the see invis boulder frogs.