Charm Time and Setup

[Bulzie]

I'm just level 30 but seems like my charm is breaking really fast like before even killing 1 mob. Sometimes it lasts a good while but not too often. Could it be my Cha is too low or should I make sure I tash the pet every time before charm? Any other tasks I am missing on a pet to make it last longer or not really at my level?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Bulzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm just level 30 but seems like my charm is breaking really fast like before even killing 1 mob. Sometimes it lasts a good while but not too often. Could it be my Cha is too low or should I make sure I tash the pet every time before charm? Any other tasks I am missing on a pet to make it last longer or not really at my level?

What is the level of the mob you are charming? Level difference can be a big factor in charm breaks. At lower levels it is often tempting to charm a mob that is white, yellow, or only 2-3 levels below you.

[Bulzie]

Most are blue to me.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Bulzie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most are blue to me.

Yeah you should take a look at the wiki to see roughly what level range the mob is. Unfortunately at lower levels, mobs green out in a smaller level range than at higher levels. For example, a level 5 stops getting experience from a level 1 mob, while a level 60 can get experience from level 40 mobs.

This makes lower level charming a bit more unreliable, because you are forced to charm mobs closer to your level if you want them to be a blue con mob. A level 60 could charm a level 45 mob, which is 15 levels below them, and still get experience from them. You are probably charming a mob only a few levels below you.

Tash the mob for sure if you can, this will help. You can also give your pet -MR gear, but if you aren't keeping the pet, this can be impractical.

[Vivitron]

Level difference is huge, and yeah tash it and cha probably helps.

If you get resists on your other spells (stun, early root breaks, etc.) it's an indication you're probably going to have increased charm break rate too (and you are less likely to survive the breaks; resists make charm breaks much more dangerous). On easy pets you probably still get an early charm break about once per 6-7 minutes or so.

[Toxigen]

205 cha is your end goal

get as much of it as you can

itll get easier as you gain levels - blue con mobs will have an increasingly wider gap to your own

ideally, try to stick with mobs that are just barely blue con for now...if theres a small mix of XP greens here and there thats ok...everything will go a lot smoother

[Wakanda]

I know this isn’t really relevant to OP, but idk t want to make a separate thread, but why is necro charm so OP �� my necro has negative charisma and I’ve never had charm break, I always end up killing the mob or letting it die

[fortior]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know this isn’t really relevant to OP, but idk t want to make a separate thread, but why is necro charm so OP �� my necro has negative charisma and I’ve never had charm break, I always end up killing the mob or letting it die

Necro charm doesn't rely on charisma at all. It's a lot more random as a result. Enchanters have a -MR spell and can use charisma to boost their charming ability even further, so as you gear and level up your charms become more consistent than a necro's.

Necro lull/paci DOES use charisma.

@OP, like the others said, level difference is the thing that matters most for charm durability. As a level 30, a level 26 is gonna con blue to you, but the level delta is only 4. At 60, a blue con might be as much as 15 levels lower than you. Additionally, you'll have even more -MR debuffage then. Just assume charms will break relatively fast until like lv40 or so, and watch your own safety. You can use -MR items to help, but know that it's mainly level difference that'll make the diff.

[PatChapp]

I didn't hit 200cha buffed until 50+, as stated your maybe just charming too high level of a mob. Should aim for around level 25 stuff at 30. The lower end of dark blue is usually safest, you'll die less and spend less mana.

[zelld52]

As others have said the level difference is the most important factor for landing any spell, not just charm.

You'd think that a mob that is blue con would be easy to land spells on - but it's not. As a 60 enchanter, I still have trouble landing spells on level 51-55 mobs. But, the level 40-50 mobs very rarely cause any trouble.

charisma does not have an effect charm duration. it supposedly has an effect on the initial cast - but the real reason enchanters stack charisma is to avoid critical fails on pacify.

even if you have 255 charisma, give your pet -40 MR in gear - if the level difference between you and the pet isnt large enough - the charm will break early and often.