Sharing accounts should be bannable

[azxten]

Additionally, those found guilty of defrauding others by taking advantage of shared accounts will be met with disciplinary actions.

P99 staff shouldn't be policing account sharing at all. Classic era sharing accounts would get you banned. If you told staff you shared your account info and someone stole your gear they would say thanks for telling us and ban you. The pressure to share account info and "be a team player" by logging into multiple accounts to do whatever guild tasks as needed is stupid. It is extremely common here and people shouldn't be getting pressured like this. Encouraging someone to give account info, share accounts, or login to one of their accounts should get that person banned.

That's all. Just another tip for making things better on P99. I recommend staff stop embracing things like this. Players should know they will be banned if they do this and that reporting someone "defrauding" you will just confirm you broke the rules. It was a classic rule for a reason.

It took years to stop the EC tunnel account trading/selling when that was allowed, P99 has a history of openly allowing this kind of thing. You learned their lesson with that one. You should also put an end to this, not endorse it and offer to help if they can. Accounts should belong to players, not guilds.

[Trexller]

yep

100% agreed

[Solist]

What lesson did they learn?

Account selling was no big deal. Server ran smooth and fine, no issues really resulted from it.

The RMT side of things is a different story. But buying and selling accounts for plat on p99 was perfectly fine and common here for a good while.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What lesson did they learn?

Account selling was no big deal. Server ran smooth and fine, no issues really resulted from it.

The RMT side of things is a different story. But buying and selling accounts for plat on p99 was perfectly fine and common here for a good while.

Those who had the Plat to buy accounts were majority the ones doing the RMT in the first place, so they linked anyway. Either way...not classic, just like account sharing. No one should have such an advantage that they can just pass off their account to someone else to hold a camp they haven't gotten their item from yet. And is incredibly easy to confirm by staff whether or not someone logged in from the same place or not after 'disconnecting'.

[sajbert]

Account sharing creates all sorts of problems.

I don’t even know why we want guildbots for instance.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by sajbert [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Account sharing creates all sorts of problems.

I don’t even know why we want guildbots for instance.

I like that bots give players access to content they may not be levelled or keyed for as well as making raiding accessible for someone who isn’t able to keep a toon of their own on park.

That said, bots do seem to be taking over.

At the moment guilds are putting immense pressure on levelling and gearing bots.

Who even owns the guild bots? Many get very well geared but then disappear in the constant cycle of guild mergers etc.

[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who even owns the guild bots? Many get very well geared but then disappear in the constant cycle of guild mergers etc.

how to get an alt leveled and geared for free off of the backs of no life neckbeards

[greatdane]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What lesson did they learn?

Account selling was no big deal. Server ran smooth and fine, no issues really resulted from it.

The RMT side of things is a different story. But buying and selling accounts for plat on p99 was perfectly fine and common here for a good while.

Yeah, sold my first account for 50k plat back in like 2011 when it was allowed. Financed my next main that way.

To be honest, they can't realistically police account-sharing. There's no such thing in our day and age as a consistent method of online identification unless they want to get into 2FA with a dongle or some shit. What else are they gonna do, ban anyone who logs on from an IP that isn't their "usual one"? The interwebs don't work that way anymore. Most people probably play from at least two different locations, judging by the amount of clerics in my groups who are at work. Seemingly as professional jugglers.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by greatdane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, sold my first account for 50k plat back in like 2011 when it was allowed. Financed my next main that way.

To be honest, they can't realistically police account-sharing. There's no such thing in our day and age as a consistent method of online identification unless they want to get into 2FA with a dongle or some shit. What else are they gonna do, ban anyone who logs on from an IP that isn't their "usual one"? The interwebs don't work that way anymore. Most people probably play from at least two different locations, judging by the amount of clerics in my groups who are at work. Seemingly as professional jugglers.

They *could* put a limit, of say 5 IPs per account per month. When you try to login as IP #6, you can't.

It would hurt people using VPNs, but normal players (even the ones that play at work, and on two home computers, and a steam deck at a coffee shop) would be unaffected.

[Vsai]

There are ways to set this up. The client has access to all the information it needs. Pairing accounts to ips and client identifiers. (This computer is running this client on this IP)
Registration by account owners. Do anything within your scope and it works. Your id's, IP's, computer identifier. The client already has the access. The trick here is because permissions are one way, you can't register to another pairing. So if you share with your friend, guess what your friend can't use that PC client or account for their own shit. And only one of you can log on at a time. It's entirely possible to do, but would require dev time.