How noticeable is halfling stealth?

[Jimjam]

Just curious what kind of difference the Halfling stealth actually makes?

How often are there moments where you're like "Damn, glad I went Halfling, that saved me"?

Are there certain play styles you can use to maximum the ability?

[Fammaden]

Ideally not noticeable at all if you are behind the mob.

[loramin]

I made my Druid and Cleric both Halflings specifically because of the racial Hide/Sneak (and of course the +5% XP bonus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]). On paper all that seemed to give Halflings the best racial benefits for both classes. However, in practice I almost never use either skill on either character.

Sneak I probably could use to vendor in certain places ... but I never think to do so; I just port somewhere I can sell on my Druid, or wait and sell later on my Cleric. And of course my Druid can just use Invis, and my Cleric can use Invis items. Maybe if I played a Rogue to a decent level I'd be more used to it, and so take advantage of it more? But for me Sneak wound up never getting used.

Hide however I did use ... very rarely. It's perfect for when you are are soloing, and don't want to have to find an "AFK safe spot". You can just Hide, /con something to make sure it worked, and then go AFK peacefully.

[Xer0]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I made my Druid and Cleric both Halflings specifically because of the racial Hide/Sneak (and of course the +5% XP bonus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]). On paper all that seemed to give Halflings the best racial benefits for both classes. However, in practice I almost never use either skill on either character.

Sneak I probably could use to vendor in certain places ... but I never think to do so; I just port somewhere I can sell on my Druid, or wait and sell later on my Cleric. And of course my Druid can just use Invis, and my Cleric can use Invis items. Maybe if I played a Rogue to a decent level I'd be more used to it, and so take advantage of it more? But for me Sneak wound up never getting used.

Hide however I did use ... very rarely. It's perfect for when you are are soloing, and don't want to have to find an "AFK safe spot". You can just Hide, /con something to make sure it worked, and then go AFK peacefully.

hide is useful when charm kiting as a druid cause it lets you break charm.

It's also helpful if you can't invis and need to avoid aggro from a hostile for one reason or another. but as mnetioned by others, the skill cap of 50 makes it not entirely reliable and often requires multiple attempts.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Xer0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hide is useful when charm kiting as a druid cause it lets you break charm.

Not really ... or at least not once your server gets to Kunark. Why? When charm fighting you need to break the charm now, not "when Hide feels like working". If you try to Hide and it doesn't break your charm, either your pet kills the mob and you lose half its XP ... or your pet dies instead, and you lose 100% of its XP.

In short, all Hide offers a charmer is a decent chance of losing XP on every charm fight. You're better off casting Invis on yourself, because even if it's slower at least you know for certain that it will break charm, and you can try and time your casts accordingly.

But the real answer is that if you're charm fighting, you want an instant-cast Invis item, like the Circlet (Necros) or Goblin Ring (everyone else).

[Xer0]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not really ... or at least not once your server gets to Kunark. Why? When charm fighting you need to break the charm now, not "when Hide feels like working". If you try to Hide and it doesn't break your charm, either your pet kills the mob and you lose half its XP ... or your pet dies instead, and you lose 100% of its XP.

In short, all Hide offers a charmer is a decent chance of losing XP on every charm fight. You're better off casting Invis on yourself, because even if it's slower at least you know for certain that it will break charm, and you can try and time your casts accordingly.

But the real answer is that if you're charm fighting, you want an instant-cast Invis item, like the Circlet (Necros) or Goblin Ring (everyone else).

I usually don't break charm mid combat. I get the XP from the uncharmed mob and then if the charmed mob is low enough (15% or less) I break charm in between pulls.

So yeah, it sitll works for breaking charm.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Xer0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I usually don't break charm mid combat. I get the XP from the uncharmed mob and then if the charmed mob is low enough (15% or less) I break charm in between pulls.

So yeah, it sitll works for breaking charm.

You're getting half XP from the uncharmed mob then [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[magnetaress]

Everyone should get sneaking.

[Fammaden]

Yeah the hide can be nice for afk/idle time, sneak can be helpful for warrior with the lack of invis, but mostly they aren't that useful and 50 skill cap is inconsistent resulting in excessive attempts to succeed.

Dwarven barrel roll is the supreme racial ability for any class that can be a dwarf. It never stops being functional in any situation or at any level or phase of the game, and you will never stop loving it every time its used.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Halfling Warrior could use Sneak to tag mobs after Monk FD. Dunno if that still works or not but it was fantastic when I played my Warrior on Blue.