Chanter Equip Optimization - Lev 50 to 60 Edition

[Seducio]

What's up folks.

I need your help.

I get weird looks from some other chanters when I tell them about my +HP item obsession. But I'm a charming chanter and I like to charm so what can I say. (Yes, even after the recent charm nerf, I still love to charm... though it's a bit deadlier now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

Here are my stats that I've tried to optimize getting as close to 200 cha/int as possible while adding as many HPs as possible.

Seducio
Level 54 - Dark Elf - Enchanter
(At creation, I put points in to these places: +15cha and +15int)

As of right now, Seducio has the following stats.

Selfbuffed (Unbuffed)

HP: 1337 (1105)
MP: 2295 (2153)
AC: 621 (537)
ATK: (493)

Int: 199 (185)
Cha: 202 (162)
Sta: (90)

MR: 121 (62)
PR, DR, FR, CR: (30)

I'm wearing these items:

Please help to give me some pointers for which items I can improve.

Currently Wearing ------> Maybe I should wear this (need to buy/get)

L Ear: Ivandyr's Loop
R Ear: Opalline Earring
Head: Insidious Halo
Face: Incandescent Mask
Chest: Insidious Robe
Arms: Gatorscale Sleeves ------> Insidious Sleeves
Waist: Braided Cinch Cord
Neck: Necklace of Superiority
Back: Hooded Black Cloak
Shoulders: Embroidered Black Cape
L Wrist: Bracelet of Woven Glass
R Wrist: Bracelet of Woven Glass
Legs: Drake-hide Leggings --------> Insidious Leggings
Hands: Insidious Gloves
Feet: Insidious Slippers
L Ring: Platinum Fire Wedding Band ---> Djarn's Amethyst Ring
R Ring: Platinum Fire Wedding Band ---> Adamantite Band
(are HPs worth the neg MR?)

Primary: Rod of Insidious Glamour ---> Would love a better aesthetic for
Secondary: A crude stein ----> these while without forfeiting stats
Range: Sarnak's Ceremonial Dagger
Ammo: ???
(I know I can't get any stats in this slot, but where do I buy throwing daggers which I see on peeps and might be good to have equipped if I need to leave an item on a corpse for a while)

Extra equipment I carry everywhere just in case:

Cat Eye Plat Neck (+9cha)
2x Golden Eye Plat Bracer (+7cha each)
Insidious Manacle (don't really ever wear this)
an extra Opalline Earring (+5cha)
Dragoon Dirk (ranged +3 MR)


I know via spell buffs that I'll be getting another +10 cha during level 56 and another +7 int during level 57.

So there you have it. Outside of the 4 equipment upgrades I highlighted, I'm not exactly sure what else I should be searching for.

Oh and one last thing. I'm not the richest of folks. I prolly only have about 1k saved, another 1k in Peridots on me, and 1k of equip on an alt.

But what I don't have in plat, I am willing to make up in time.

Thank you in advance for any comments and suggestions.

Seducio
<Poison>

P.S.

Does anyone have any first hand experience charming with 255cha vs 200 cha post nerf?

And how much does 255 int add manawise compared to 200 int at level 60?

I'm wondering if pursuing the hard caps on this server is worth the effort after the diminishing returns rewarded after meeting the soft cap.

Or if I'm on the right track to be hoarding +HP equipment as a charming chanter.

[Splorf22]

I'm in a pretty similar boat - I bought the 5AC/55HP rings at level 20 and never looked back, although I usually end up wearing my Goblin Gazughi Ring since I picked gnome instead of DE. Even if you aren't charming, an enchanter just pulls a lot more aggro on stun/mez than mages or wizards who basically don't get hit at all if they play it right. In the same vein I try and increase my resists a little for all those caster mobs in Chardok and Sebilis.

For better or worse I have found very few caster items in Kunark and even fewer enchanter items with charisma - its basically the melee expansion (sadly from what I have read Velious is the why-the-fuck-do-you-even-play-something-with-spell-gems expansion).

The obvious item for you is a Hierophant Cloak (+75HP) - so try and get in those crypt groups (almost impossible, I know). You can also grab the Supple Scale Armband from Karnor's at the cost of only a few HP. The other item that I want to try to pick up is an Insignia Protector from the Queen in Chardok - its the same int/cha total but has +30 on useful resists.

Getting much beyond the soft caps seems to be difficult unless you played a high elf and dumped all your points into charisma.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why-the-fuck-do-you-even-play-something-with-spell-gems expansion).

Not like any of the dropped spells are useful/powerful right. Dropped weapons.. dropped spells... hmm...

[Seducio]

These suggestions are designed to help someone fill a slot for a given stat priority.

Hitpoints - Priority (HP) - Pre-Planar

L Ear: Black Sapphire Electrum Earring
R Ear: Black Sapphire Electrum Earring
Head: Platinum Tiara
Face: Enshrouded Veil
Chest: Robe of the Kedge
Arms: Gatorscale Sleeves
Waist: Braided Cinch Cord
Neck: Black Sapphire Platinum Necklace
Back: Hooded Black Cloak
Shoulders: Embroidered Black Cape
L Wrist: Golden Jaded Bracelet
R Wrist: Golden Jaded Bracelet
Legs: Gatorscale Leggings
Hands: Impskin Gloves
Feet: Kobold-Hide Boots
L Ring: Platinum Fire Wedding Band
R Ring: Platinum Fire Wedding Band
Primary: Gnoll Hide Tome
Secondary: Rokyls Channelling Crystal
Alt(using both hands): Staff of the Waterwalker
Range: Idol of the Thorned


Charisma - Priority (Cha) - Pre-Planar

L Ear: Opalline Earring
R Ear: Opalline Earring
Head: Siryn Hair Hood
Face: Incandescent Mask
Chest: Robe of the Ishva
Arms: Gatorscale Sleeves
Waist: Braided Cinch Cord
Neck: Sarnak Arcane Fetish
Back: Hooded Black Cloak
Shoulders: Embroidered Black Cape
L Wrist: Golden Cat Eye Bracelet
R Wrist: Golden Cat Eye Bracelet
Legs: Drake-hide Leggings
Hands: Incandescent Gloves
Feet: Kobold-Hide Boots
L Ring: Electrum Star Ruby Ring
R Ring: Electrum Star Ruby Ring
Primary: Rod of Insidious Glamour
Secondary: A Crude Stein
Range: Sarnak Ceremonial Dagger


Intelligence – Priority(Int/MP) - Pre-Planar

L Ear: Ivandyr's Loop
R Ear: Batskull Earring
Head: Runed Cowl
Face: Polished Mithril Mask
Chest: Froglok Bonecaster's Robe
Arms: Gatorscale Sleeves
Waist: Giant Reminder String
Neck: Sapphire Platinum Necklace
Back: Mystic Cloak
Shoulders: Obulus Death Shroud
L Wrist: Supple Scale Armband
R Wrist: Golden Bracer
Legs: Black Chitin Leggins
Hands: Impskin Gloves
Feet: Golden Efreeti Boots
L Ring: Band of Eternal Flame
R Ring: Rose Platinum Engangement Ring
Primary: Gnoll Hide Tome
Secondary: Book of Obulus
Range: Sarnak Ceremonial Dagger


Resist Gear - Priority (MR,CR,FR) - Pre-Planar

L Ear: Earring of Essence
R Ear: Blue Diamond Electrum Earring
Head: Crown of King Tranix, Crown of the Froglok Kings
Face: Enshrouded Veil, Golden Diamond Mask
Chest: Siren Scale Robe, Froglok Bonecaster's Robe
Arms: Hollowed Bone Bracers
Waist: Drakescale Belt
Neck: Necklace of Superiority, Golden Blue Diamond Pendant, White Gold Necklace
Back: Cloak of the Ice Bear
Shoulders: Obulus Death Shroud
L Wrist: Supple Scale Armband
R Wrist: Wolf's Eye Golden Bracelet
Legs: Hand Woven Leggings, Mammoth Hide Leggings
Hands: White Satin Gloves (Planar)
Feet: Golden Efreeti Boots
L Ring: Band of Eternal Flame
R Ring: Platinum Jacinth Wedding Ring, Platinum Diamond Wedding Ring
Primary: Stein of Moggok, Glowing Blackstone
Secondary: Ornate Rune Shield
Range: Dragoon Dirk


Best Slot – Priority (HP,Cha,Int) - Planar

L Ear: Earring of Displacement
R Ear: Earring of Essence
Head: Insidious Halo
Face: Ivory Mask
Chest: Insidious Robe
Arms: Insidious Sleeves
Waist: Wind Walker's Mantle
Neck: Necklace of Superiority
Back: Hierophant Cloak
Shoulders: Wind Walker's Mantle
L Wrist: Bracelet of Quiescence
R Wrist: Supple Scale Armband
Legs: Insidious Pantaloons
Hands: Insidious Sleeves
Feet: Insidious Slippers
L Ring: Djarn's Amethyst Ring
R Ring: Band of Eternal Flame
Primary: Rod of Oblations
Secondary: Insignia Protector
Alt(using both hands): Staff of the Waterwalker
Range: Dustscryer's Crystal Ball


Charming – Priority (Cha) - Planar

L Ear: Earring of Displacement
R Ear: Opalline Earring
Head: Insidious Halo
Face: Ivory Mask
Chest: Insidious Robe
Arms: Insidious Sleeves
Waist: Wind Walker's Mantle
Neck: Necklace of Whispering Winds
Back: Hierophant Cloak
Shoulders: Wind Walker's Mantle
L Wrist: Bracelet of Quiescence
R Ring: Electrum Star Ruby Ring
Legs: Insidious Pantaloons
Hands: Insidious Sleeves
Feet: Insidious Slippers
L Ring: Electrum Star Ruby Ring
R Ring: Electrum Star Ruby Ring
Primary: Rod of Insidious Glamour
Secondary: Insignia Protector
Alt: Rod of the Protecting Winds
Range: Dustscryer's Crystal Ball


God-like - Priority (Badass) - Best of Raids

L Ear: Earring of Displacement
R Ear: Earring of Essence
Head: Insidious Halo
Face: Eye of Cazic Thule
Chest: Crimson Robe of Alendine
Arms: Insidious Sleeves
Waist: Grotesque Girdle
Neck: Amulet of Necropotence
Back: White Dragonscale Cloak
Shoulders: Wind Walker's Mantle
L Wrist: Zombie Flesh Bracer
R Wrist: Bracelet of Quiescence
Legs: Insidious Pantaloons
Hands: Ancient Shissar Gauntlet
Feet: Golden Efreeti Boots
L Ring: Djarn's Amethyst Ring
R Ring: Band of Eternal Flame
Primary: Staff of the Serpent
Secondary: Insignia Protector
Range: Brain of Cazic Thule

[baalzy]

Many of these won't be easily obtainable, but if you have a decent guild you should be able to get them eventually.

Well on your belt you can get Sphyx-hair cord

Otherwise theres the Bone-Clapsed girdle off Dracolich. But you'll be fighting for it over every other int/wis caster.

Replace one of the wrists with the zombie flesh bracer also from Dracolich.

Face- you should look at the enshrouded veil or the Ivory Mask.

Crimson Robe of Adeline- only robe that beats insidious outside of VP.

Shoulders- Wind Walkers Mantle

Hands- Ancient shissar gauntlet (20hp via the stam, and a huge amount of Int so you can stack more cha or hp in other slots).

Feet- GEBs, use the extra int to replace your ivandyrs with a 35/25 hp/mana earring or earring of essence for 30hp/10svm

Edit:
Primary/secondary you can go staff of the waterwalker, 10int 100hp. Uses both slots tho.
Hand of the Maestro
Gnoll Hide Tome
Stein of Tears

Range
statue of the bathezid

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As of right now, Seducio has the following stats.

Selfbuffed (Unbuffed)

HP: 1337 (1105)

Well currently your HP spells LEET... Honestly I would take that as a sign and not change a thing. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Seducio]

Thank you both Slorf and Baalzy.

I guess this is the equivalent of a equipment hell level now that upgrades just got a lot stiffer to get and steeper to achieve.

My guild is doing its first Sky raid on Thursday so I'll soon know what to expect soon as to what's achievable for us up there.

I really want a Hiero Cloak that was mentioned, but it's currently out of my price range and like you said getting in that specific crypt group requires an either an act of Congress or for an individual to donate their future first born into voluntary prearranged indentured servitude (almost like college)... and so not bloody likely.

I also liked the GEBs suggestion as that could free up some other spots for more HP. It's also doable without half of Norath rallying behind me to raid Gods like most of the other stuff.


Also thanks to guinea for pointing that out. I got a laugh once I figured it out. It reminds me of time after time when my current girl is trying to tell me where something is in the fridge after I've stared at it for the last 5 minutes looking for something to eat. So thanks for pointing out the obvious when I was oblivious. But I do like you're logic ;p


Lemme parse out a couple questions for you guys that I had in my original post, but that got lost in the crowd or all the things I was asking.


Question 1: Is this a good move

R Ring: Platinum Fire Wedding Band ---> Adamantite Band
5AC +55HP ------------------> +75HP -10 MR

Are +20HPs worth the -5AC and -10 MR?


Question 2: Anyone know of any items that fit in the ammo slot for ENC to be left on a corpse if need be?


Question 3: Does anyone know how much mana 255 int gets vs 200 int at 60?


Question 4: Are there noticeable differences between charming with 255 cha vs 200 cha? (I'm trying to figure this out after conflicting reports. And yes I've read through most if not all of the charm posts here on p99 forums.)



The answers to these questions probably will steer my equipment upgrade choices in months to come.


Thanks again for all of your participation.

Seducio
Guild: Poison

[username17]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Question 2: Anyone know of any items that fit in the ammo slot for ENC to be left on a corpse if need be?

Done a little searching.
The only Ammo slot item with stats that I found was a 'Summoned: Coldstone'.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=25580
They provide 5AC and Ultravision.
NO RENT being the one big drawback and that you can't make on yourself.

I also found a Courier's potion from Charok that ports you to the OT.
Ammo slot only, instant cast. Basically a self-evac to OT.
Not sure if it's currently available in game, but it's worth a shot.

GL

[Verenity]

Originally Posted by Seducio [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I also liked the GEBs suggestion as that could free up some other spots for more HP. It's also doable without half of Norath rallying behind me to raid Gods like most of the other stuff.

I'd duo efreeti with ya some time if you'd like, that's a good way to get both the ring and the boots.

[guineapig]

I was charming in Howling Stones yesterday actually. With 255 charisma tash and malo there were times when charm was breaking after 1-2 minutes and I even had a break after 1 tic. This was at level 56 doing west wing.

Comparatively at 55 I had days where I was having charm hold for 5-7 minutes with just tash and 236 charisma. In my opinion having buffed charisma around 200 is plenty for your regular duties (pacify/mez/blur). Keep some extra charisma gear for when you want to charm stuff but charm is wildly unpredictable now (just like it was in classic).

Take that for what it's worth.