Hackers on P99

[Zeakus]

Its been a while since last time I logged in, and always loved the idea of classic EQ. However, when you guys first launched there was quite a few hackers running MQ2 with speed hacks and the such. Did you guys ban and figure out a way to stop them? I know SoE never has cared to ban these users, but if you guys are actively hunting them down, and watching for this, I would love to play in a true classic EQ environment.

Thanks for the response,
Zeak

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Zeakus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its been a while since last time I logged in, and always loved the idea of classic EQ. However, when you guys first launched there was quite a few hackers running MQ2 with speed hacks and the such. Did you guys ban and figure out a way to stop them? I know SoE never has cared to ban these users, but if you guys are actively hunting them down, and watching for this, I would love to play in a true classic EQ environment.

Thanks for the response,
Zeak

You will find these servers pretty heavily policed. You fart and they will hear it. They are quick to drop the ban hammer on turds cheating or causing problems.

Asher

[Zeakus]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You will find these servers pretty heavily policed. You fart and they will hear it. They are quick to drop the ban hammer on turds cheating or causing problems.

Asher

Good to hear, the one reason I don't play on EQ's progression servers is because of all the hacking and boxing.

[Amelinda]

Originally Posted by Zeakus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good to hear, the one reason I don't play on EQ's progression servers is because of all the hacking and boxing.

Neither boxing nor hacking are tolerated here.

[wildstarr]

Originally Posted by Zeakus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Good to hear, the one reason I don't play on EQ's progression servers is because of all the hacking and boxing.

I wont question you on the boxing on the progression severs but what are you talking about with hacking? I played on the Fippy server day one till shutdown and there was no hacking going on. Exploits, sure but I recall no hacking.

[Nagash]

Originally Posted by Asher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You will find these servers pretty heavily policed. You fart and they will hear it.

Amelinda doesn't like farts...

Nagash/Petitpas

[Zeakus]

Macroquest 2 users are rampant on EQ Live servers, thats no secret. As far as "active" hacking (warping, zoning, speed hacks, etc...) there is less but i'd say a good 20%+ of the population using this. Now using "passive" out of the box MQ2 there is quite a bit more of that going on, probably around 40% of the population.

From my understanding project1999 looks for both types of hackers and has even caught quite a few, which is a lot more than I can say for the incompetient SoE team.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Zeakus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

incompetient SoE team.

Has less to do with their competency and more to do with priorities. Finding ways to ban their paying subscribers is not on the top of that list.

In fact, back in June of 2006 (or was it 2007?), one of the coders on EQLive put a system into the client to track calls to certain functions that were also hooked into by macroquest. By incrementing a variable once right before every call to that function, and also incrementing a second variable inside of that function, and comparing those variables, one could tell if those variables ever differed that an external hook was in place. This then triggered the client to send a special packet to the server which flagged your account (but didn't take any action) for third party programs.

Due to the overwhelming number of accounts that were flagged by this, SOE decided not to take any action against the flagged accounts.

[Loly Taa]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has less to do with their competency and more to do with priorities. Finding ways to ban their paying subscribers is not on the top of that list.

In fact, back in June of 2006 (or was it 2007?), one of the coders on EQLive put a system into the client to track calls to certain functions that were also hooked into by macroquest. By incrementing a variable once right before every call to that function, and also incrementing a second variable inside of that function, and comparing those variables, one could tell if those variables ever differed that an external hook was in place. This then triggered the client to send a special packet to the server which flagged your account (but didn't take any action) for third party programs.

Due to the overwhelming number of accounts that were flagged by this, SOE decided not to take any action against the flagged accounts.

Damn man, this is some epic insight. I never played back when that went down but it makes sense. This client just has the two CRCs sent at worldserver login, which is how you validate that people have proper spell files?

[redghosthunter]

I used to get the warping message all the time on VzTz.

"Large warp detected"

I was annoying cause a message was sent server wide and you were left with no health or mana... Free kill. I wasn't even hackin.