High levels camping all the good spots and bullying lowbies who actually get xp??

[northwoods21]

Does this get worse as you go up in levels???

I'm only lvl 9, orc camps are often camped by a single person just killing orcs and farming belts...

Today I found an empty Orc Camp 1... so I set about starting a group to get some good xp and belts... I ask in /ooc if anyone wants to start a group for orc camp 1
A high level guy responds and says "no"

So I continue searching, I find a bard who wants to join, and set about recruiting for more people for orc camp 1...

A couple minutes later, this high level toon who said "no" to me joining orc camp 1, runs up and proceeds to start slaughtering all the orcs and takes the camp.

The bard shows up, and I inform him that a high level took the camp, we split up the group and I log off.


So what I want to know, Does this type of player behavior get worse at the good hunting grounds the higher up you go in levels? Is this what I have to look forward to??? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Snortles Chortles]

take the flight path to a different zone for XP when u run into meanies

[drackgon]

Its funny I think just a week ago or so I posted about my alt wizzy which sadly I've not gotten chance to play. Same issue happened. Trolls will say stop crying or some other racist stuff bc thats all they can do.

But for your topic. Belts are constantly farmed by higher lvls, just like camps that earn money, or clickys. Example Idol in HHP, Elf sklly in Befallen, orcs in wc/SRO, pretty much anything that falls into helping twinks, money, raiding. Its just the name of the beast. Best thing to do is just move on, thankfully most zones are pretty big, sadly some are just packed. It does get better 18-40 range. Clearly 40+ zones are very limited to XP in and those are generally high reward areas, so 50s will camp them all the time. Most 1-17 zones are just packed. Besides of places like Toxx(bc its garbage), but Misty thicket is a great place they usually not many around fyi!

Helpful tip, moment you log on /lfg on, /ooc Class lvl LFG, and start moving zone to zone in your level range. Also ./who all <zone> find someone around your level and ask, hey can you do CC. Not all will reply, but some will respond. Then just DM peeps and add your name to list.

[Lordgordon]

Yes. All you will see is level 50s AFK PLing their own chars.

Odyssey 50 cleric does this in wfp at the arena, for example.

[jerryR]

I'm leveling up an alt straight grouping right now and have had no real issues into the 20s - either finding groups or with high levels taking all the camps.

Occasionally will have someone level 50 camping a specific named but usually if they are well adjusted humans (who still remember the grind...) they will give buffs or help out in exchange for sharing.

Different story about a lot of item camps but if you're just levelling then just stick with it and ignore/avoid peoplelike rhat

[TripSin]

Originally Posted by jerryR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Occasionally will have someone level 50 camping a specific named but usually if they are well adjusted humans (who still remember the grind...) they will give buffs or help out in exchange for sharing.

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Okay, but what are your chances that that level 50 camping something is a well-adjusted human? Like 20% or 30% maybe?

[jerryR]

Originally Posted by TripSin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, but what are your chances that that level 50 camping something is a well-adjusted human? Like 20% or 30% maybe?

And I don't get this logic. Eventually everyone who keeps playing gets to level 50... and maybe will want to camp an item for themselves, an alt or to sell. wtf is the problem with that?

The most vitriol (edit: at leveling camps) I find comes from twinks racing through levels who are know it alls or lower level people that are already on the cusp of burning out..

[Dolalin]

On live EQ, nobody could 'own' a camp. You had to share. Guides/GMs enforced sharing.

Seems like it would resolve a lot of toxic behaviour on P99.

[BlackBellamy]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On live EQ, nobody could 'own' a camp. You had to share. Guides/GMs enforced sharing.

Seems like it would resolve a lot of toxic behaviour on P99.

Yeah I remember I was camping Frenzy and the GM showed up and he was like now you have share Frenzy with Dudley over here. Oh wait that never happened ever. What "live EQ" are you talking about. Is that what is happening NOW?

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by BlackBellamy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I remember I was camping Frenzy and the GM showed up and he was like now you have share Frenzy with Dudley over here. Oh wait that never happened ever. What "live EQ" are you talking about. Is that what is happening NOW?

Plenty of in-era threads about GMs enforcing camp sharing. This Guide suggests rotating the placeholders:

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt....4/AJ5fqvEj2csJ

It's also directly mentioned in the Verant customer service manual:

8.2.3 Contested Spawn Complaints

When a complaint is received indicating that a spawn or kill is contested, a disruption investigation should first be initiated according to the procedures of section 8.2.2 to determine if harassment or Zone/Area disruption is occurring. After following those procedures and issuing warnings as necessary, instruct the parties involved in the contested spawn situation to work out a compromise. Then leave the scene.

If another complaint is received involving the same spawn site, another disruption investigation should be initiated. After following those procedures and issuing warnings as necessary, if any of the parties involved were involved in the initial situation, establish a compromise for the parties to which the parties are required to abide. The compromise should be as described in section 8.2.3.1. Any party refusing to abide by the compromise established by the CS Representative should be issued a warning for disruption.

On PvP servers, where players can reach a solution to the contested spawn situation, the CS Representative does not need to require the players to share the spawn.

8.2.3.1

The compromise will require all parties to take turns killing the spawn(s). All parties involved in the contested spawn should be instructed to use /random 0 100 to choose a number. The CS Representative then uses /random 0 100. The individual with the closest number to the CS Representative’s number will be next in the rotation. The CS Representative then bases the rest of the rotation order on how close the other parties’ numbers were to theirs. The compromise established by a CS Representative must be objective and not require the CS Representative to choose one customer over another based on subjective criteria. The CS Representative is the arbiter in any disputes in establishing the compromise.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Kunark_E...ice_Guidelines

You're not wrong that generally people would respect camps, but if you start being an arse, it's a good deterrent to shenanigans to know that getting staff involved will result in an enforced compromise that satisfies nobody and will generally result in suspensions if not adhered to. Seems like less work for P99 staff that way, not more.

(As usual, just my own opinion.)