Baby ranger weapons/shield question

[Chinetter]

Newbie ranger here, just hit level 17. That's when we get dual wield and I have trained that skill at the trainer.

I've acquired two magic 1H slash weapons, one is 24delay 7dmg, other is 22delay 6dmg. [One of them has a proc but not until lvl25 so that part is irrelevant to my considerations right now.] I also have a Shiny Brass Shield.

Am I better off wielding the best weapon plus the shield, or both weapons? Is my ideal setup different depending on whether I am soloing or grouping? Some other variable?

If the best answer is the two weapons, then which weapon logically goes into which slot?

All experienced comments are very welcome. And no need to assume that I know even the basics about rangering...

[Jimjam]

I'd use weapon and shield. For some reason you can get duel wield skill ups while you have a shield in your secondary slot. Test using an offhand weapon occasionally to see if it is producing a satisfactory number of swings for you. It isn't until like 150 skill you can duelwield/double attack with the offhand anyway.

[Keebz]

Another option is to get a decent 2h. A Gigantic Zweihander will do you good till your late 30's when dual wield gets reasonable. A Bone Bladed Claymore isn't a bad option if you need to save up for the GZ.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another option is to get a decent 2h. A Gigantic Zweihander will do you good till your late 30's when dual wield gets reasonable. A Bone Bladed Claymore isn't a bad option if you need to save up for the GZ.

For my green ranger, at L40 the Tainted Steel Bastard Sword (20/42) still outdamages Electrum Bladed Wakazashi (7/21) + Orc Impaler (7/23) but it's pretty close now. The TSBS is free if you have some 35+ friends or a half adequate guild, and it is only marginally inferior to the GZ (20/42 +6str vs 19/39) and the GZ sells for 400-ish

[gherron]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For my green ranger, at L40 the Tainted Steel Bastard Sword (20/42) still outdamages Electrum Bladed Wakazashi (7/21) + Orc Impaler (7/23) but it's pretty close now. The TSBS is free if you have some 35+ friends or a half adequate guild, and it is only marginally inferior to the GZ (20/42 +6str vs 19/39) and the GZ sells for 400-ish

Can you clarify this for me?

TSBS 20/42: .476

GZ 18/39: .462

Lamentation Blade 25/54: .463

wouldn't the TSBS be the best option out of the 3?

[formallydickman]

Originally Posted by gherron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you clarify this for me?

TSBS 20/42: .476

GZ 18/39: .462

Lamentation Blade 25/54: .463

wouldn't the TSBS be the best option out of the 3?

Yes, 1-50 TSBS is higher dmg potential even without considering the stats. Use (bonus dmg + (wep dmg*2)) / delay once you have melee damage bonuses:

below 29 (assuming no dmg caps)
Tainted Steel Bastard Sword 0 20 42 0.952
Lamentation Blade 0 25 54 0.926
Gigantic Zweihander 0 18 39 0.923

at 34
Tainted Steel Bastard Sword 3 20 42 1.024
Lamentation Blade 3 25 54 0.981
Gigantic Zweihander 3 18 39 1.000

at 49
Tainted Steel Bastard Sword 8 20 42 1.143
Lamentation Blade 8 25 54 1.074
Gigantic Zweihander 8 18 39 1.128

[kaev]

Originally Posted by gherron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you clarify this for me?

TSBS 20/42: .476

GZ 18/39: .462

Lamentation Blade 25/54: .463

wouldn't the TSBS be the best option out of the 3?

lol yes, somehow was figuring damage output as if GZ was 19/39, thanks for correcting me. formallydickman's #s for the modal dmg ((base * 2) + bonus) vs delay ratio look correct.

[Lartanin63]

Use shortsword of Morin in main hand and the ebony blade in off hand till it starts procing. I assume those are the two weapons you are talking about based off delay. You have waited 17 level to look cool using two weapons. Screw the shield, go go fashion quest.

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Chinetter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Newbie ranger here, just hit level 17. That's when we get dual wield and I have trained that skill at the trainer.

I've acquired two magic 1H slash weapons, one is 24delay 7dmg, other is 22delay 6dmg. [One of them has a proc but not until lvl25 so that part is irrelevant to my considerations right now.] I also have a Shiny Brass Shield.

Am I better off wielding the best weapon plus the shield, or both weapons? Is my ideal setup different depending on whether I am soloing or grouping? Some other variable?

If the best answer is the two weapons, then which weapon logically goes into which slot?

All experienced comments are very welcome. And no need to assume that I know even the basics about rangering...

In regards to which weapon you want in your main-hand, the highest DPS weapon. So in this case the 7/24 weapon.

Divide the damage by the delay to get a weapon's ratio:
7/24 = 0.291 <-- Better
6/22 = 0.272

Your offhand will only attack every so often, your main-hand will attack every chance it gets, so maximize your damage output.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Kich867 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In regards to which weapon you want in your main-hand, the highest DPS weapon. So in this case the 7/24 weapon.

Divide the damage by the delay to get a weapon's ratio:
7/24 = 0.291 <-- Better
6/22 = 0.272

Your offhand will only attack every so often, your main-hand will attack every chance it gets, so maximize your damage output.

In addition, at level 28, there’s a main-hand damage bonus you want applied as often as possible, so at level 28 and beyond I would roll with the 6/22 (which will effectively be 7/22) in MH and 7/24 in OH.

{Main hand bonus} is always 0 for non-melee characters, and weapons wielded in the off-hand.
{Main hand bonus} for one handed weapons is: ({Player Level} - 25) / 3 (rounded down)