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Old 03-22-2020, 12:14 AM
Chinetter Chinetter is offline
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Default Current player counts by class: some actual data

On the Green server, I collected the number of players online by class, sorting them by low levels (1-19), mid levels (20-39), and high levels (40-50). From within the game I ran the following commands for each class:

/who all <classname> count 1 19
/who all <classname> count 20 39
/who all <classname> count 40 50

"/who all count" captures all characters that are in-game including those who have the anon flag on.

There are 14 classes so each run of this process was 42 commands. I did this 7 times across four days (March 18-21), all during prime playing hours when the server population is highest.

Here are the results. For each class the numbers shown here are the average number of players online at that time, plus (in parens) the standard deviation of the 7 counts collected.

DRU 1-19: 44.3 (5.3)
DRU 20-39: 56.6 (8.2)
DRU 40-50: 57.4 (7.8)

ENC 1-19: 39.0 (3.9)
ENC 20-39: 31.6 (2.8)
ENC 40-50: 46.4 (7.5)

NEC 1-19: 29.9 (5.9)
NEC 20-39: 35.7 (4.3)
NEC 40-50: 26.4 (7.0)

CLR 1-19: 30.9 (7.0)
CLR 20-39: 25.3 (5.9)
CLR 40-50: 34.3 (6.9)

SHM 1-19: 28.4 (2.5)
SHM 20-39: 31.1 (5.4)
SHM 40-50: 30.7 (8.4)

MAG 1-19: 25.9 (2.0)
MAG 20-39: 23.7 (3.6)
MAG 40-50: 28.4 (2.4)

BRD 1-19: 30.0 (8.2)
BRD 20 39: 17.6 (3.2)
BRD 40-50: 13.3 (1.5)

WAR 1-19: 24.3 (2.3)
WAR 20-39: 13.7 (3.0)
WAR 40-50: 12.1 (3.1)

MNK 1-19: 16.6 (4.0)
MNK 20-29: 16.4 (2.1)
MNK 40-50: 15.7 (4.3)

WIZ 1-19: 15.1 (3.4)
WIZ 20-39: 14.1 (1.3)
WIZ 40-50: 11.1 (2.9)

PAL 1-19: 18.7 (3.8)
PAL 20-39: 10.1 (4.1)
PAL 40-50: 9.7 (3.5)

SK 1-19: 16.1 (1.9)
SK 20-39: 12.7 (1.5)
SK 40-50: 11.9 (5.3)

ROG 1-19: 15.9 (2.5)
ROG 20-39: 13.1 (2.8)
ROG 40-50: 13.0 (4.7)

RNG 1-19: 12.3 (2.4)
RNG 20-39: 11.0 (2.9)
RNG 40-50: 8.0 (2.2)


The different populations I found in-game among the classes were striking. None of the 7 samples found fewer than 130 druids nor fewer than 106 enchanters, whereas the _highest_ number of rangers I found in-game was 40. At about 9 PM US central time March 20th the Green server had 66 druids level 40 or higher in the game but only 39 paladins of all levels and only 27 rangers of all levels. At about 3 pm US central time March 21st there were 177 druids and 123 enchanters and 103 necromancers in the game, totaling just under 40% of all players in the game at that time; at that same time there only 31 rangers, 34 rogues, and 40 shadowknights.
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Old 03-22-2020, 12:47 AM
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melees suck until kunark. I'm not the slightest bit surprised except with the fact so many people somehow find druid enjoyable
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Old 03-22-2020, 04:56 PM
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melees suck until kunark.
What about Kunark brings melees up relative to casters?
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Old 03-22-2020, 05:27 PM
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What about Kunark brings melees up relative to casters?
Gear. Classic's itemization sucks enormous donkey balls. Melee gain far more from weapons than casters (Especially Rogues, and *especially* with the Rogue Epic).
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Old 03-23-2020, 09:43 PM
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What about Kunark brings melees up relative to casters?
So there are many things-
New gear, so all the old elite gear becomes much cheaper an easier to buy an to acquire because all the camping azzhats will move to kunark, many players will finally have a chance to camp for those higher level items themselves, or finally buy that 2H mith that was 20k an now its 100pp, lol.

New gear that's on par with or better than planar gear that can be bought, most planar gear is no drop. So it's now slowly making elite classic sellable gear obsolete and those planar equip toons are depressing the market now trying to desperately get rid of it before kunark when its worthless, when kunark hits the bottom will drop out. This is why 2H Miths went from 20k to 5k now. Buying high level Kunark gear and twinking a new level 1 melee is like a rite of passage. If you haven't done it before, you're in for a treat.

The biggest change though are the melee disciplines, all melee, even hybrids get disciplines that are basically like free spells with short and or long cool downs at 51st to 60th level. This is what makes most melee outclass most of the casters very significantly, if used with the proper gear of course.
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Old 03-27-2020, 03:43 AM
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What about Kunark brings melees up relative to casters?
Mostly epics I would assume. Casters wield their epics but they do not contribute to DPS nearly as much as melee who actually swing theirs.
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Old 03-28-2020, 08:43 PM
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Casters wield their epics but they do not contribute to DPS nearly as much as melee who actually swing theirs.
*Clears throat really loud*

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Old 03-29-2020, 08:45 PM
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Yeah I forget about mage pet lol He is beastly. Wish Wizards epic had something that useful
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Old 03-27-2020, 02:20 PM
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melees suck until kunark. I'm not the slightest bit surprised except with the fact so many people somehow find druid enjoyable
No one enjoys druids. They're just easier to level than wizards in order to get the same plat from ports.
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Old 04-13-2020, 10:59 PM
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I'm not the slightest bit surprised except with the fact so many people somehow find druid enjoyable
Druid was always considered to be OP in classic. It's not until tanks start to get really large health pools that Druids mana pool can't keep up. This happens with Kunark/Velious level gear. That said they will always be played for ports and because quad kiting is fun and viable way to achieve max level.
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