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Old 09-29-2019, 08:47 AM
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Default Convenience Features on Blue?

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I was wondering now that Green is going live that maybe we could add a few convenience features onto blue.

My reasoning is that the players who want the hard core classic experience (which is obviously what p99 is all about) will be playing Green. With the timelines extended on Blue, years in Kunark and other factors, it already feels non-classic. So, I feel like that justifies consideration of this topic.

Examples of convenience features are:
Multiple Hotbars
Keyring
any others?

Let me stress that I am not advocating for making Blue any easier, and I would hate to cause a slippery slope to enable features like map, shared bank, etc. However, the hotbar issue is easy to argue, especially since Blue had it enabled for years and years until recently. If the intention of Blue was really to beta for Green, when Green releases, what is holding us back from loosening up, just a bit, on blue?
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:03 AM
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Can this be moved to RNF? For convenience?
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:15 AM
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Oh, plz plz plz plz. I am all for this totally. Implement QoL features on blue once Green goes live. As stated above, the Greens can be all the hardcore knuckleheads screaming CLASSIC CLASSIC CLASSIC!! A few features you could consider, by no means a complete list:

-keyring (For the love of god!! Don't make me move my soulbound keys around again
every....time.... I.... die.....
-guildtool (It is extremely helpful to be able to visually see who is on, whose alt is who.
rank of members, etc. We also need to track who is still in the guild and who
quit. We have no way atm to track this.)
-map (At this point, what's the difference? People have second monitors today, (and
third, and 4th computers) and have maps up from Wiki all the time. Just put it in
the game already.
-shared bank (I would have thought you would want this one just for RMT. I get
paranoid anymore when some stranger walks up to me and say's "Hey, will you
transfer these bags for me plz?" Can't help but to get suspicious.)
-quest journal (Its nice to have the game track whom you've spoken to, and who you
need to speak to next. I often forget the people involved on drawn-out quests.)

I'm sure there are others, but if Green is going to be your "final classic emulation", then give the Blue the QoL options. And they are options. If people don't want them, they don't have to use them. But I would bet if you put them in game on blue, there wouldn't be a single person not using them. They are already in the Titanium client, just please activate them.
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Old 09-29-2019, 11:03 AM
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Oh, plz plz plz plz. I am all for this totally. Implement QoL features on blue once Green goes live. As stated above, the Greens can be all the hardcore knuckleheads screaming CLASSIC CLASSIC CLASSIC!!
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:26 AM
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Thomacles I appreciate your exuberance, but that isn't what I propose. I do not want shared bank, map and other tools to make the game easier.

After reading your post, maybe I am only advocating for hotbars, and not simply QoL features.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:39 PM
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Thomacles I appreciate your exuberance, but that isn't what I propose. I do not want shared bank, map and other tools to make the game easier.

After reading your post, maybe I am only advocating for hotbars, and not simply QoL features.

Shared bank makes the game easier but more hotbars don't?

What?

I'm certainly on board with the key ring. changes nothing with how the game is played just a really annoying artifact of poor design.
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Old 09-29-2019, 10:30 PM
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I'm certainly on board with the key ring. changes nothing with how the game is played just a really annoying artifact of poor design.
Having to micro manage your inventory is absolutely part of all the small things that make the game special. When you change keys from something physical that your character has to contend with to a virtual flag, then keying becomes just some task to access a zone rather than a part of your character's physical place in the world.

As the design stands you have to think about what keys are important enough to deal with the hassle of carrying and looting them all the time. A "key ring", that is anything more than a bag for keys, would essentially delete the entire concept of keys from the game.

Again its this "greater than the sum of its parts" concept we purists keep preaching. When you start removing annoying and primitive design aspects, even if you don't realize it you are also removing part of what you and I and all of us actually love about the game.

It takes two seconds to pop your CS tooth and seb key into a bag after a rez, its really not that oppressive.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:38 AM
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Multiple hotbars were removed from Blue, what do you think the chances are of this not happening on Green?
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:46 AM
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Green wasn't/isn't live. I assumed they were using blue as a test for the polished version of green. Once Green goes live, blue really isn't needed anymore for their testing purposes.

@Hada ==> I don't know what the trouble is about the 2nd hot bar. (Although I am not opposed at all to one). With one hot bar and keeping the macro box up, that seems more than enough. The stuff on my wish list doesn't make the game any easier other than making the interface more streamline. MoBs are still as tough, your (our) gear still all sux, etc etc.
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Old 09-29-2019, 09:55 AM
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