When are we getting beastlords?

[pink grapefruit]

Luclin sucked because it introduced pvp safe zones, the bazaar, new models, horses, and fast travel. You know what didn't suck about it?

Beastlords, and shortie hybrids. Also the raids were pretty cool. Didn't clerics finally get bash?

Anyway. Now that they're in the final stages of testing the new green pvp teams server, isn't it about time we got some custom content? I'd love to play a beastlord, and a gnome SK! Beastlord class was super well thought out idk.

what ur thoughts

[Nuggie]

... I think maybe you should take a shot at TAKP. That's their goal. Nilbog said he would never.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by pink grapefruit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin sucked because it introduced pvp safe zones, the bazaar, new models, horses, and fast travel. You know what didn't suck about it?

Beastlords, and shortie hybrids. Also the raids were pretty cool. Didn't clerics finally get bash?

Anyway. Now that they're in the final stages of testing the new green pvp teams server, isn't it about time we got some custom content? I'd love to play a beastlord, and a gnome SK! Beastlord class was super well thought out idk.

what ur thoughts

I don't know if they got better, but BST used to suck on live imo. It was a fun idea (and kinda fun class to play I guess), but as a hybrid of monk/shaman they were left as neither as good dps (or utility) of the monk nor as good utility of the shaman. they had no niche.

The mass group buff paragon is the only thing I can remember them contributing eventually to raids, but I don't think they had in luclin (unsure of this).

[Plowyabeastlord]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't know if they got better, but BST used to suck on live imo. It was a fun idea (and kinda fun class to play I guess), but as a hybrid of monk/shaman they were left as neither as good dps (or utility) of the monk nor as good utility of the shaman. they had no niche.

The mass group buff paragon is the only thing I can remember them contributing eventually to raids, but I don't think they had in luclin (unsure of this).

I disagree. As a top 10 beastlord on live. I was always near the top 5 for dps. I could solo damn near anything that could be slowed. And tanked multiple times on raids but to each their own

[Cen]

In luclin era though? Beasts sucked in their initial era. They are better after they can feign and get the cold punches and stuff.

Also clerics don't bash till many expansions after luclin.

Shortie hybrids were good tho. Rangers became tremendously powerful. SKs as well.

[Quizlop]

Originally Posted by Cen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also clerics don't bash till many expansions after luclin.

Wrong.

Cleric bash was towards the end of Luclin, about 1.5 months before PoP launch.

[Cen]

Originally Posted by Quizlop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wrong.

Cleric bash was towards the end of Luclin, about 1.5 months before PoP launch.

I was so sure it was gates of discord, and upon further research, what i confused was that Clerics got bash as a baseline skill in Gates of Discord that they learn at level 25, as opposed to the Luclin AA ability

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Plowyabeastlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I disagree. As a top 10 beastlord on live. I was always near the top 5 for dps. I could solo damn near anything that could be slowed. And tanked multiple times on raids but to each their own

Not disagreeing that they are a fun class, as you said to each their own.

But also as you say, even as one of the top ones on your server you weren't the best dps...you weren't the best tank...you weren't the best slower...you weren't the best stats buffer. what was the special niche of the class?

It just always struck me, for that reason, that they didn't fit well into the existing classes dynamic. Same thing when berserker came out. From what I understand they eventually fixed berserker and made them pretty much a straight dps class (which wasn't something the game really needed, but it at least gave them an on-par niche with other classes).

[Scribin]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not disagreeing that they are a fun class, as you said to each their own.

But also as you say, even as one of the top ones on your server you weren't the best dps...you weren't the best tank...you weren't the best slower...you weren't the best stats buffer. what was the special niche of the class?

It just always struck me, for that reason, that they didn't fit well into the existing classes dynamic. Same thing when berserker came out. From what I understand they eventually fixed berserker and made them pretty much a straight dps class (which wasn't something the game really needed, but it at least gave them an on-par niche with other classes).

I quit playing shortly after Luclin came out and never played a beastlord or went on any raids post kunark... that said. My little brother played a beastlord and enjoyed it very much. Which brings me to the point of my post, Maybe the fun part about EQ to people isn't filling a niche in a raid but having fun playing the game.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Scribin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe the fun part about EQ to people isn't filling a niche in a raid but having fun playing the game.

Indeed. I just noticed that I tend to lose interest and quit once I get to the point where I only log in for raids. For instance, when I have one or more max level characters, finish an epic quest or two, and finish gathering the "low-hanging fruit" when it comes to gear (or GEARS, GUISE). I guess the journey of leveling and questing is the main thing that holds my attention in Everquest. Food for thought. I hope this doesn't mean I'm doomed to reroll over and over.

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