Shaman Slowing

[Evia]

So I'll admit it was years down the road for me before I learned that an Enchanters lvl 4 mez should generally be used over the higher lvl mezzes. I was curious if it's the same for shamans slow spells? Is there a low lvl slow that is generally viewed as the "main" slow to use? Or is the best slow for the lvl always the one you want?

[Danth]

Use the best slow that doesn't run you out of mana. That'll be the top slow against anything significant. In come cases that may be no slow at all, in the case of groups rapidly bringing in large numbers of weak opponents.

Danth

[beargryllz]

Nah they want that 75% slow

They should get it around lvl 51 or so

Enchanters use the lvl 4 mez because all the mez have the same -resist check and the same effect. But you don't really need more than 4 ticks to kill 1 add in most groups, so lvl 4 mez is the best mez most of the time

[loramin]

I believe the consensus is that you always want the best one, until you get Turgur's Insects. For many fights the 75% of Turgur's, at a cost of 250, isn't worth the extra 75 mana for 5% more slow compared to Togor's (70% slow for 175 mana).

Personally I just use Turgur's for everything though. We're Shaman, we have Cannibalize and (at 60) Torpor: we have mana to burn

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe the consensus is that you always want the best one, until you get Turgur's Insects. For many fights the 75% of Turgur's, at a cost of 250, isn't worth the extra 75 mana for 5% more slow compared to Togor's (70% slow for 175 mana).

Personally I just use Turgur's for everything though. We're Shaman, we have Cannibalize and (at 60) Torpor: we have mana to burn

For the record I bug reported this, I believe Togor's should cap much sooner regardless of SPDAT data. So eventually, if evidence is to be believed, there will be a much wider gap between Turgur's and Togor's... making Turgur's more the 'go to' slow in most situations.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the record I bug reported this, I believe Togor's should cap much sooner regardless of SPDAT data. So eventually, if evidence is to be believed, there will be a much wider gap between Turgur's and Togor's... making Turgur's more the 'go to' slow in most situations.

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[Supaskillz]

Leveling I think you will have to make judgement calls if you are grouped. some groups dps is so high slowing is just not worth it bc mob will be half dead by the time you spend a bunch of mana to slow it. Soloing you are likely root rotting until 60 so obviously don’t waste mana slowing.

I have a 60 shaman. I mostly solo but for me it’s not close, I use turgurs all of the time. It lasts twice as long and is a better slow and most of my solo fights at lvl 60 are well over 3 min.

[Arkanjil]

normal grouping I just stick to torgor's. Anything that I know will be a longer fight or when I'm soloing/raiding, it's Turgur's.

[Swish2]

Nobody knows which one you're casting and many don't bother to ask - use one which allows your mana pool to stay fairly steady as mentioned.

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[Darkatar]

Originally Posted by Swish2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nobody knows which one you're casting

The slows actually have very obviously different cast times- Anyone that cares to know can easily figure it out by watching the shaman cast.