Halloween 2018 Costume Ideas

[mickmoranis]

hail TRUMP finally we live in a society where racism is over. People respectfully honor a patriot they love for halloween and a person of color can be in a position of power and tell everyone that everything is going to be OK

What are you going to go as for halloween?

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[ScaringChildren]

Halloween is a European Pagan holiday.

Non-whites are culturally appropriating if they celebrate.

Gotta make em live by their own rules.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Halloween is a European Pagan holiday.

Non-whites are culturally appropriating if they celebrate.

Gotta make em live by their own rules.

You can't culturally appropriate if you're in a hegemonic position of power and authority, and you use your influence to control who has a voice in our culture. The essence of cultural appropriation isn't just taking it, but commercializing it and using it to benefit yourself over the people who created it. When disenfranchised minorities participate in Halloween, they aren't benefiting from the commercialization because they aren't stakeholders.

At least that's what my wife would say about that, and about racism. It's awful but she's dynamite in the sack so I deal with it.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't culturally appropriate if you're in a hegemonic position of power and authority, and you use your influence to control who has a voice in our culture. The essence of cultural appropriation isn't just taking it, but commercializing it and using it to benefit yourself over the people who created it. When disenfranchised minorities participate in Halloween, they aren't benefiting from the commercialization because they aren't stakeholders.

At least that's what my wife would say about that, and about racism. It's awful but she's dynamite in the sack so I deal with it.

So random white girls wearing native American headdresses at music festivals are stakeholders and benefitting from the commercialization?

I had no idea they were so industrial...

[Lune]

Originally Posted by ScaringChildren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So random white girls wearing native American headdresses at music festivals are stakeholders and benefitting from the commercialization?

I had no idea they were so industrial...

The idea is that the people ultimately benefiting from the commercialization of native american culture are white, like, it's probably white people who manufactured / sold them the headdresses.

Anyway that's not what I believe and I'm not going to do devils advocate for college campus liberalism in this fine thread about halloween costumes. Lune is just frustrated because this is the kind of shit his wife believes and she won't discuss it with him. So I'm arguing with myself through you

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The idea is that the people ultimately benefiting from the commercialization of native american culture are white, like, it's probably white people who manufactured / sold them the headdresses.

Anyway that's not what I believe and I'm not going to do devils advocate for college campus liberalism in this fine thread about halloween costumes

What if a black guy sold the white girl a native American headdress?

Who broke your law in that scenario?

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The idea is that the people ultimately benefiting from the commercialization of native american culture are white, like, it's probably white people who manufactured / sold them the headdresses.

Why couldnt a native american sell the headdresses?

and FYI it was probubly CHINESE people that manufactured them, and it was probubly a native american, or an african american, who sold them in front of the venue.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can't culturally appropriate if you're in a hegemonic position of power and authority, and you use your influence to control who has a voice in our culture. The essence of cultural appropriation isn't just taking it, but commercializing it and using it to benefit yourself over the people who created it. When disenfranchised minorities participate in Halloween, they aren't benefiting from the commercialization because they aren't stakeholders.

At least that's what my wife would say about that, and about racism. It's awful but she's dynamite in the sack so I deal with it.

This kind of argument is probably true -- in at least as much as that it demonstrates some true things about the world that are normally hard to see as a run of the mill white person.

What this reminds me of is the McDonalds coffee case. Some old lady spills coffee on herself from McDonalds by accident -- and then successfully sues them for over million.

This became a mainstream story. We didn't really go into the details, like how the coffee was over-the-top hot (because that was their way of sanitizing it). They refused to do anything about it preceding the lawsuit. How she got 3rd degree burns and the case rewards barely covered her medical and legal expenses.

But everyone became keenly aware of this problem in society were lawyers could use the sympathy of juries to get disproportionate rewards. It became a joke -- like lawsuit was a good way to strike it rich. Until most states adopted "tort reform" to make it hard to sue businesses.

The point is: there is this small problem in society that takes a good amount of knowledge about the way trails work to even discuss let alone solve. In yet the entirety of society is talking about it like its imperative we all come to an opinion about frivolous lawsuits...

Well this is because the media's corporate overlords hated lawsuits. And they also want us to discuss philosophical concepts of racial intersection with a high degree of sophistication. It's like were all supposed to have the knowledge those with degree multi-cultural studies have -- and then use that knowledge to come up with substantive opinions on the matter.

But it's totally not appropriate for a society-wide discussion when it comes down to it. It's buttering your toast while the curtains are on fire. The most more interesting question is why are we spending so much time talking about every micro-aggression we can come up with? Why do we constantly try to cut the world into good people and racists.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This kind of argument is probably true -- in at least as much as that it demonstrates some true things about the world that are normally hard to see as a run of the mill white person.

What this reminds me of is the McDonalds coffee case. Some old lady spills coffee on herself from McDonalds by accident -- and then successfully sues them for over million.

This became a mainstream story. We didn't really go into the details, like how the coffee was over-the-top hot (because that was their way of sanitizing it). They refused to do anything about it preceding the lawsuit. How she got 3rd degree burns and the case rewards barely covered her medical and legal expenses.

But everyone became keenly aware of this problem in society were lawyers could use the sympathy of juries to get disproportionate rewards. It became a joke -- like lawsuit was a good way to strike it rich. Until most states adopted "tort reform" to make it hard to sue businesses.

The point is: there is this small problem in society that takes a good amount of knowledge about the way trails work to even discuss let alone solve. In yet the entirety of society is talking about it like its imperative we all come to an opinion about frivolous lawsuits...

Well this is because the media's corporate overlords hated lawsuits. And they also want us to discuss philosophical concepts of racial intersection with a high degree of sophistication. It's like were all supposed to have the knowledge those with degree multi-cultural studies have -- and then use that knowledge to come up with substantive opinions on the matter.

But it's totally not appropriate for a society-wide discussion when it comes down to it. It's buttering your toast while the curtains are on fire. The most more interesting question is why are we spending so much time talking about every micro-aggression we can come up with? Why do we constantly try to cut the world into good people and racists.

And the owner of McDonald's and a random teenager working the window are exactly the same because they share white skin.

Except that McDonald's is a publicly traded company, so it's owned by many...probably a lot of races in that mix.

But no, let's attack the teenager working for minimum wage.

Makes sense to me.

[Wonkie]

im gonna eat twizzlers with the porch light off

enjoy your fascist holiday childs