Luclin was classic, PoP was not.

[Blathe Shadowsbane]

Change my mind. Yeah i know brad/aradune left, but eventually I'd love a server to just let us play up to Luclin.

[beargryllz]

6/10, good foundations, but ultimately low-effort troll

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Blathe Shadowsbane [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

eventually I'd love a server to just let us play up to Luclin.

So build it. That's the only way it will happen, and you don't need permission from anyone here to do so.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Toodles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Um what? Where is he going to get all the customized .xml files and sub-data? You think Nilbog will just casually hand that out to anyone?

You can start the emulated server..that's the easy part, and you could scrape together some default database files..that's where it ends.

Of course Nilbog doesn't share the P99 source or database, but you don't need either to run an emulator server.

Do you think P2002 or any of the other major EQ emulators magically stole everything from P99? Of course not: they used the stock EQ Emulator data, which is certainly good enough to get started, and then whoever is running the server tweaked it from there. Any non-classic server would have to do that, no matter what, even if they could steal everything from P99, because you can't steal Luclin/PoP data from P99.

Honestly you could take the stock EQ Emulator data, not change a single thing, and still make a server tons of people would play on. P99 didn't achieve success because of their ultra-classic tweaks; in fact, some might argue the server succeeded in spite of them. Building a successful server is about building a community, and that requires a lot of things like quality (and uncorrupt) GMs which have nothing to do with the technical aspect.

If someone wants to start a successful PoP (or any era) server their biggest challenge is going to be the non-technical community building ... not making sure every mob is in exactly the same place it was back in '99.

[Foxplay]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Of course Nilbog doesn't share the P99 source or database, but you don't need either to run an emulator server.

Do you think P2002 or any of the other major EQ emulators magically stole everything from P99? Of course not: they used the stock EQ Emulator data, which is certainly good enough to get started, and then whoever is running the server tweaked it from there. Any non-classic server would have to do that, no matter what, even if they could steal everything from P99, because you can't steal Luclin/PoP data from P99.

Honestly you could take the stock EQ Emulator data, not change a single thing, and still make a server tons of people would play on. P99 didn't achieve success because of their ultra-classic tweaks; in fact, some might argue the server succeeded in spite of them. Building a successful server is about building a community, and that requires a lot of things like quality (and uncorrupt) GMs which have nothing to do with the technical aspect.

If someone wants to start a successful PoP (or any era) server that's their biggest challenge, not making sure every mob is in exactly the same place it was back in '99.

Incorrect it takes hotpockets and beer

[Kohedron]

I'd be 99% fine with Luclin if Nexus didn't exist. And not even the fast travel part, just the 'everyone is allowed' part

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by Kohedron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd be 99% fine with Luclin if Nexus didn't exist. And not even the fast travel part, just the 'everyone is allowed' part

This is also why the OT hammers need the MQ nerfed. It's the primary reason you don't see wiz and druids in dungeons cuz melee can easily hammer out.

[Expediency]

Hated the nexus/travel books first time I saw them; hate them now. That+bazaar robots broke the game for me. AAs were not much better.

Id love to see some luclin zones on p99 Theyd be ultra hard without AAs. Pass on the bells & whistles

[Gozuk]

Turn the Shady Swashbuckler area of the EC tunnel into an Arena. That was the best part of Luclin... The Bazaar arena was always poppin off

[Christina.]

Originally Posted by Gozuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Turn the Shady Swashbuckler area of the EC tunnel into an Arena. That was the best part of Luclin... The Bazaar arena was always poppin off

the bazaar arena! so cool