Please Change the Two Boxing Rule

[Eseven]

I know, the people have been heard and the majority has ruled against it, but I would hope that some people would be open minded enough to consider my point of view and change what I think is an unnecessary rule.

From what I have gathered, the most cogent reason given as to why this rule is in place, is that the quality of the in-game community will be degraded by too many people playing double characters.

I agree with this argument to a certain extent. Yes, if a very high percentage of players were double boxing, then all the symptoms described by those against it would probably become an issue.

I disagree that this rather vague percentage will ever be reached. The majority of players are still going to be playing the game in a solo manner. It was like that before, it will be like that now. I can't recall once in the past of me ever thinking to myself "these damn two boxers, always ruining my fun!".

It really was never a problem. Usually it was just the opposite. The only time I ever really noticed a two boxer impacting the game was when we were grouped together and they were having a positive effect on game play, i.e. extra buffs, heals, etc. , just like any other character being controlled by one person.

Now your probably thinking, well thanks for sharing your view, now move along. Well that is the reason for my post. I am moving along although I really don't wish to and there really isn't a place to move along to anymore.

Like many other people, I have had a love for this game for many years. I eventually stopped playing because I wasn't happy with all the changes being made to it, and frankly all the time I was spending playing was beyond ridiculous. It would have been great to be able to come back to the game I had known and enjoy it again, not just because of the original content, but also because it was doable within my current lifestyle.

I am no longer willing or able to spend my time, especially my mornings, sitting around looking for a group to play with, and when that group is eventually found, not being able to get anything else in real life done. Being able to two box is a solution to this problem. It allows you the freedom to play the game in a semi-afk capacity while you go about your daily business. What is so wrong with that? It doesn't mean you never group with other people, you just regulate it to when you have the time to focus your full attention on the game.

Many player's lifestyles and priorities have changed over the last ten or so years but our love for this game has not. I used to stay up all night raiding and adding pizza boxes to my collection, now I wake up early in the morning and enjoy cooking a nice meal for my family in the evening.

The two boxing rule being enforced on this server is driving people like myself away from the game. We either play the game because we can or we don't play at all. We don't wish to interfere with any others enjoyment or hurt the game whatsoever, we just want to go about our game business quietly and at a leisurely pace.

I hope some people will take my thoughts into consideration and change a rule that I believe labels many decent players as troublemakers and thus considers them better off dead.

[quellren]

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[Nedala]

Live: 2 boxing costs you extra money, the majority of people didn't 2 box for this reason.

P99: 2 boxing would be free, almost everyone + their grandmothers would 2 box, everything would be even worse camped than now, raiding would be a total shitfest. The server would be garbage, the majority of people would /quit, p99 would be dead.

Play a solo class if you dont want to be in need of grps.



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[Alex]

Originally Posted by Nedala [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Live: 2 boxing costs you extra money, the majority of people didn't 2 box for this reason.

P99: 2 boxing would be free, almost everyone + their grandmothers would 2 box, everything would be even worse camped than now, raiding would be a total shitfest. The server would be garbage, the majority of people would /quit, p99 would be dead.

Play a solo class if you dont want to be in need of grps.



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This, two-boxing would ruin the server. No boxing is part of what makes this server great.

[Teeny]

Originally Posted by Nedala [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Live: 2 boxing costs you extra money, the majority of people didn't 2 box for this reason.

P99: 2 boxing would be free, almost everyone + their grandmothers would 2 box, everything would be even worse camped than now, raiding would be a total shitfest. The server would be garbage, the majority of people would /quit, p99 would be dead.

Play a solo class if you dont want to be in need of grps.



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You cap the amount of boxes people get, allowing 2, wouldn't kill the state of this game, it would help it. Groups would be full, and be able to do more with it, yes people can duo more, but it means more people will be apt to play because TBH, when I came back I played a solo class because I don't have 15 people I know playing with me. With kunark coming, and more zones and more people being SPREAD OUT.

You people on this server are kidding yourselves if you don't think its already going on anyways, with these exemptions, the GMs are stretched thin trying to watch for people who do it, but its done. People find work arounds to it, and the list goes on and on. I play usually late night hours, when theres 300 and less on, and I can tell you, if I played anything but a necro, I'd probably have quit by now, I really think allowing just 2, would bring more people to the server who wouldn't be scared to start here because they can play 2 classes that compliment well and help them get started. I personally would have liked to play a group class like a rogue, but knowing my playtime, during leveling it just wouldn't be possible or efficient in any way.

Most of you don't know what doing this would do to the server, you are assuming. Most of the people who aren't complete egotists understand that the best XP groups in this game require a full group, not 4 people. All this will do is help that be achieved.

You guys are entitled to your opinion, we are entitled to ours, the bottom line of the situation is this, you want a classic EQ experience? Just like in 1999? GUESS WHAT? People boxed back then too, on 56k and i think the game was fine back then so do you obviously if your playing here now.

[Pico]

Originally Posted by Teeny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Most of you don't know what doing this would do to the server, you are assuming. Most of the people who aren't complete egotists understand that the best XP groups in this game require a full group, not 4 people. All this will do is help that be achieved.

It's not assuming. Go check out Shards of Dalaya, at least 75% of the players there 2 box, and it really kills the feeling of the game knowing half the players are just bots. The only reason they allow it is because they were never able to reach a huge population like P1999. They consider it a necessary evil.

Things are fine how they are.

[Teeny]

Originally Posted by Pico [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not assuming. Go check out Shards of Dalaya, at least 75% of the players there 2 box, and it really kills the feeling of the game knowing half the players are just bots. The only reason they allow it is because they were never able to reach a huge population like P1999. They consider it a necessary evil.

Things are fine how they are.

Shards of Dalaya =/= project 1999 This server would gain more people imo if boxing was allowed, but its an opinion nothing more. I'll just respectfully agree to disagree.

[Pico]

Originally Posted by Teeny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shards of Dalaya =/= project 1999 This server would gain more people imo if boxing was allowed, but its an opinion nothing more. I'll just respectfully agree to disagree.

Why would it be any different? Why would people not decide to 2 box when it gives you a huge boost in power, is extremely easy to do, and free.

[Razdeline]

Originally Posted by Teeny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You cap the amount of boxes people get, allowing 2, wouldn't kill the state of this game, it would help it. Groups would be full, and be able to do more with it, yes people can duo more, but it means more people will be apt to play because TBH, when I came back I played a solo class because I don't have 15 people I know playing with me. With kunark coming, and more zones and more people being SPREAD OUT.

You people on this server are kidding yourselves if you don't think its already going on anyways, with these exemptions, the GMs are stretched thin trying to watch for people who do it, but its done. People find work arounds to it, and the list goes on and on. I play usually late night hours, when theres 300 and less on, and I can tell you, if I played anything but a necro, I'd probably have quit by now, I really think allowing just 2, would bring more people to the server who wouldn't be scared to start here because they can play 2 classes that compliment well and help them get started. I personally would have liked to play a group class like a rogue, but knowing my playtime, during leveling it just wouldn't be possible or efficient in any way.

Most of you don't know what doing this would do to the server, you are assuming. Most of the people who aren't complete egotists understand that the best XP groups in this game require a full group, not 4 people. All this will do is help that be achieved.

You guys are entitled to your opinion, we are entitled to ours, the bottom line of the situation is this, you want a classic EQ experience? Just like in 1999? GUESS WHAT? People boxed back then too, on 56k and i think the game was fine back then so do you obviously if your playing here now.

^^ This.

[porigromus]

Play a mage, necro or a druid. These classes can solo and this solves all issues you mentioned in your post. By the way the reason you want to solo is what the 1 client per IP corrects. Everyone doing there own thing.