Resist Check and Charm Question

[Barlu]

Did some searching but couldn't find the answer so apologies if this is redundant. When you charm a mob does the game designate the duration of the charm at the time the spell lands or does it continue to check to see if it will break every tick? I know at times when I've had a mob charmed for awhile Tash will wear off. I'm wondering if that makes it more likely to break or if it just checks my charisma and the mobs MR at the time the spell lands and then assigns a duration then. Thanks in advance!

[Nybras]

Your charisma and the monster's magic resist is checked every tic that charm is active.

[Swish]

Charm duration itself has a few factors such as your charisma,the mob's MR and your level vs the mobs level.

A broken tash shouldn't readjust the original charm timer, the check should only apply at the point where it lands. But do reapply tash again when charm breaks, obviously [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[P99Druid]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Charm duration itself has a few factors such as your charisma,the mob's MR and your level vs the mobs level.

A broken tash shouldn't readjust the original charm timer, the check should only apply at the point where it lands. But do reapply tash again when charm breaks, obviously [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go back to promoting red server in every post, you're better at that than enchanter advice. Charm most definitely checks every tick to try and break or hold. Tash falling off most definitely does increase the chance of it breaking early. There's nothing you can do about it besides wait for it to break and retash or break it yourself when it's safe to do so and retash it then.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by P99Druid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go back to promoting red server in every post, you're better at that than enchanter advice. Charm most definitely checks every tick to try and break or hold. Tash falling off most definitely does increase the chance of it breaking early. There's nothing you can do about it besides wait for it to break and retash or break it yourself when it's safe to do so and retash it then.

Dang. Swish got pwned!

[Swish]

Originally Posted by P99Druid [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Go back to promoting red server in every post, you're better at that than enchanter advice. Charm most definitely checks every tick to try and break or hold. Tash falling off most definitely does increase the chance of it breaking early. There's nothing you can do about it besides wait for it to break and retash or break it yourself when it's safe to do so and retash it then.

I've leveled 3 enchanters (one sold when selling for plat was legal) and I can remember plenty of instances when tash fades and the charm continues for plenty of time. Maybe that's a coincidence but show me some solid evidence - not from live in 1999 or on the TLPs right now, from P99.

You done a test?

Me and an old pal Propo test a theory on once you break 200 charisma, charm length becomes much more stable (so is there a need to go to 255?). I'll see if I can dig that out, it was done in City of Mist pre-Velious. That was actual testing and not getting emotional at someone else's words on a forum because you disagree with them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jshaman]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You done a test?

Me and an old pal Propo test a theory on once you break 200 charisma, charm length becomes much more stable (so is there a need to go to 255?). I'll see if I can dig that out, it was done in City of Mist pre-Velious. That was actual testing and not getting emotional at someone else's words on a forum because you disagree with them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would be interested to see some of this data as well. Currently leveling a enchanter and still trying to decide which side I believe. Perhaps once I have enough gear I'll conduct some tests or my own. (I have no emotional attachment to either side [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])

[Kich867]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've leveled 3 enchanters (one sold when selling for plat was legal) and I can remember plenty of instances when tash fades and the charm continues for plenty of time. Maybe that's a coincidence but show me some solid evidence - not from live in 1999 or on the TLPs right now, from P99.

You done a test?

Me and an old pal Propo test a theory on once you break 200 charisma, charm length becomes much more stable (so is there a need to go to 255?). I'll see if I can dig that out, it was done in City of Mist pre-Velious. That was actual testing and not getting emotional at someone else's words on a forum because you disagree with them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll try and test this out tonight or tomorrow on my druid, interesting topic. Can compare keeping glamour on VS dispelling it after charm and see average duration.

[kuuky]

While we are talking charm, how important is 200 cha for a bard to charm effectively?

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by kuuky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While we are talking charm, how important is 200 cha for a bard to charm effectively?

For charm, it's not important.

Charm will only last 3-4 tics max so any difference between 200+ and ... say ... 110 is negligible. Charisma helps with missed notes and lulls. As such you should always pseudo-favor this stat. I've got about 145 charisma in normal gear iirc and leveled all the way to 60 mostly charming while lfg. Charm breaks so rarely before the charm expires that I generally went HOURS between early charm breaks.

I only break out the charisma gear when I need to lull break a high level camp (BM in velks, crypt or king area in seb, SG etc).