What's the Guild Atmosphere these days?

[Cars]

Returning player coming back wth some friends. Curious what the field looks like now with Velious out. Who's the top dawgs? What casual guilds are best to join that still get some raiding in etc etc. Who's the new TMO?

[teija]

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who's the top dawgs?

Awakened and Aftermath

A-Team+IB = Rampage+ Taken = Awakened
TMO=Forsaken + Asgard = Aftermath

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What casual guilds are best to join that still get some raiding in etc etc.

Anonymous,Venerate, Fires of Heaven or one of the "CSG's" Azure Guard/Omni/Europa if you just want to get your feet wet.

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who's the new TMO?

There is no new "TMO", No one single guild controls 100% of velious. Every guild has the same opportunity to secure raid content. Awakened and Aftermath go back and forth taking about a 50/50 split of about 90%+ of velious content tho.

Welcome back to the server!

[Gimp]

There's several old school hardcore people that don't do the 24/7 batphone anymore in Rustle.

If you're not looking to hardcore neckbeard on a dead end server, they're probably your best bet.

You'll have to excuse Happy for omitting them, he's still mad about something or another

[Tankdan]

Originally Posted by Cars [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Curious what the field looks like now with Velious out.

Velious launched here almost 2 years ago so the field has changed just in this expansion alone. <Rampage> dominated most of Velious before waking the Sleeper 15 months ago. https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=227097

I think Rampage got 25 of the first 25 Vulak's and 37 of the first 40 Zlandicars before Forsaken (and sometimes Forsaken/Asgard/Taken alliance) gained traction, causing burnout by Rampage members and a desire to wake the Sleeper and move on with life.

When that happened, many Rampage decided to quit the game or slowly fade away from P99. For the Rampage that wanted to keep raiding Velious content, <Awakened> was formed by non-officers of Rampage alongside <Taken> which merged the remaining players from those guilds together.

Aftermath and Awakened have the most players showing up and are the most willing to no-life P99 content in 2017, and this hasn't changed over the last year or so. They can each get 50-70+ people online within an hours' time during prime time hours, and they still batphone raids at 4am or 11am on a Tuesday.

Rustle has many ex-Rampage/IB hardcore types combined with newer raiders, but the guild is smaller in numbers so they pick and choose what they go for and when they go for it. They are more willing to compete for harder targets/zones than smaller guilds, but they make sure to limit the poopsocking.

Anon, CSG, Venerate, FOH, and others make up the rest. They have plenty to raid, but are far less likely to be seen poopsocking a starting line than A/A. They also get to slaughter Kunark on top of their Velious raids. If you don't want to treat P99 raiding like an on-call job, this is where most people find home.

There is still no Class C/R/FFA rotation for Velious. That has been substituted by GMs suspending A/A every couple of weeks for "violations" and letting the other guilds have at it.

[Lukeass]

Curious, where does clue fall in all of this?

[Expediency]

People on the server have four options:

1. Hardcore: A/A are only two in this category. Tend to require 58+
2. Organized casual raiding: CSG/FAV/rustle . Guilds in this category have lots of people but are not hardcore and limit racing/poopsocking. Also target kunark more than a/a. Tend to require 46+
CSG is a long term alliance of the guilds Azure Guard, Omni, and Europa. We can turn out a/a type numbers (or more) during our primetimes but we are far more casual and limit poopsocking. We prefer to avoid lawyerquesting.
FAV has a similar strategy to CSG.
Rustle is smaller, seems to target mobs during a smaller window than the other two, but has more semi retired pros on their roster and can bring the heat when they decide they want to.
3. Large casual guilds: These will raid but are less organized and often have no minimum level requirement or batphone. Typically very friendly players who have no interest in hardcore anything. Veloci shift and clue are good examples.
4. Unaffiliated/tiny guild: P99 staff ignores the live rule of 10 people minimum in a guild. There are loads of guilds with only a few people in them. If you want a very small atmosphere, join or found one of these guilds.

Originally Posted by Lukeass [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Curious, where does clue fall in all of this?

Clue is fairly large and has friendly and helpful people but they are not nearly as organized as others their size.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We prefer to avoid lawyerquesting.

wasn't the last suspension due to CSG lawyerquesting?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wasn't the last suspension due to CSG lawyerquesting?

Stop trolling here. They are asking questions about guilds, not the toxic behavior some of you raiders exhibit, in fact the same toxic behavior you are exhibiting in this thread.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop trolling here. They are asking questions about guilds, not the toxic behavior some of you raiders exhibit, in fact the same toxic behavior you are exhibiting in this thread.

Stating a fact isn't trolling. And the fact that CSG is making stuff up is a pretty good way to judge them as a group of guilds. Pushing misinformation is trolling, stating the truth is not.

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol ok so my first hand experience of not seeing you guys once since the double suspension contest eachother for a single CT, Trak, Klandi/Zlandi repop in the past month is wrong and I'm just clueless and /who has been lying to me, not to mention on several occasions teaming up for Staute/AoW and Vulak for what should be the most contested targets on the server.

You actually said "don't contest each other at all anymore". The mobs you listed don't even make up1/4 of the velious spawns. But now you're actually trying to justify your generalization by bringing up a couple of examples?

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah pretty much this. You can't really blame them for getting tired of getting sent to the sidelines and having to watch casual guilds down the same targets without having to poopsock with screenshare tracking for hours and hours making their in-game accomplishments feel less significant. So instead of A/A continuing to compete and race for FTE against eachother and have some sort of guild policy to not rule-lawyer and petitionquest or you get booted from the guild or lose all your dkp or whatever, they just don't compete with each-other at all.

So now Awakened and Aftermath don't contest each-other at all anymore and appear to be rotating targets when they aren't zerging them together with 100 players. All that talk about the love of "competition" in non-instanced classic everquest raid content because of how fun it was to contest other guilds and players was a gross facade and blatant lie after all (not surprised and most knew it all along).

So its really is just all about the loot now and sticking it to the little guys.

The actual deal is that instead of petitioning each other, they will work it out themselves. This is basically due to the attitude of the other more casual guilds. It's also easier to be able to camp a full force out for one target rather than splitting your forces over 2-3 different targets, which has the added benefit of also making it easier to keep everything in the hands of A/A. Now your "first hand experience" really doesn't mean anything.

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People on the server have four options:

1. Hardcore: A/A are only two in this category. Tend to require 58+
2. Organized casual raiding: CSG/FAV/rustle . Guilds in this category have lots of people but are not hardcore and limit racing/poopsocking. Also target kunark more than a/a. Tend to require 46+
CSG is a long term alliance of the guilds Azure Guard, Omni, and Europa. We can turn out a/a type numbers (or more) during our primetimes but we are far more casual and limit poopsocking. We prefer to avoid lawyerquesting.
FAV has a similar strategy to CSG.
Rustle is smaller, seems to target mobs during a smaller window than the other two, but has more semi retired pros on their roster and can bring the heat when they decide they want to.
3. Large casual guilds: These will raid but are less organized and often have no minimum level requirement or batphone. Typically very friendly players who have no interest in hardcore anything. Veloci shift and clue are good examples.
4. Unaffiliated/tiny guild: P99 staff ignores the live rule of 10 people minimum in a guild. There are loads of guilds with only a few people in them. If you want a very small atmosphere, join or found one of these guilds.



Clue is fairly large and has friendly and helpful people but they are not nearly as organized as others their size.

And then there's Auld Lang Syne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]