P99 Green: The way I see it.

[Sillyturtle]

It's been stated by the staff that once the team has finished making updates and the game has reached the patch version they've targeted that it has always been their plan to provide an accurate journey for us from Classic and progressing through Kunark and back up to Velious with proper timing.

There's been some speculation on how they'll do this and the two most popular theories are that they'll either A) Wipe Blue 99 and start fresh or B) make Green 99, a new server that will progress independently of Blue 99 and once 'finished' will fold the characters and economy into Blue 99 before starting over. Here's my take on things:


Both have their pro's and cons as far as I can see it. I've asked my guild what they'd do if Blue 99 was wiped and started from scratch and surprisingly most of them replied that they'd probably quit. Whether they'd really quit or just grumble about it before reluctantly starting again is anyones guess, but they seemed pretty serious.

I'm totally in favor of a fresh economy, where the enormous glut of plat is gone and everyone is on equal standing and we can enjoy EQ as it was meant to be, right from the beginning. Apparently not everyone feels this way. So it's for that reason that I think option A is probably not the best idea.

Equally though, my concern for option B) Green 99 is that will we have enough population to withstand it? I think the answer is yes, as I honestly feel we'd steal people from current live servers like Phinigel. The reason I quit Phinigel is because I feel 2 months is simply too short of a turnover for each expansion launch and I know others feel the same. So we'd get people from there. I also feel that some of the people who proclaimed they'd quit if Blue 99 was reset would make new characters and play also, secure in the knowledge that they still have all their achievements over on Blue 99 intact.

All in all, I hope that's the option that Rogean takes once everything is all said and done. I know this is a hotbutton topic so I'd really like everyone who posts to keep it friendly.

I'd like to know what you think. Do you disagree with me? Do you perhaps see another alternative that I haven't mentioned?

Post away, friends.

[Thulack]

1. They wont wipe blue.
2. Yes it would sustain but now with even more neckbeards then p99 had when it started so everything thats valuable would be camped by the same people for the existence of them dropping(manastone,Guise) and raid mobs would be cleared within a month of it opening and nothing would really be different from blue other then the extended timeline that it has had.

[maskedmelon]

Fortunately we don't have to worry about Green stealing people from Phinny, because it will complete its progression before Green launches. Suggesting P99 would "steal" players from Phinny is both naive and irresponsible. There are a lot more differences beyond timeline. P99 does not appeal to the same player base. If it did, that would be grounds for shutting it down.

[Sillyturtle]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fortunately we don't have to worry about Green stealing people from Phinny, because it will complete its progression before Green launches. Suggesting P99 would "steal" players from Phinny is both naive and irresponsible. There are a lot more differences beyond timeline. P99 does not appeal to the same player base. If it did, that would be grounds for shutting it down.

Can you explain what you mean by 'irresponsible' please? I don't think it's naive at all, considering several people playing on Phinigel also play here, as well as some people who used to play on Phinigel now play here (I myself am one of them, though I played P99 before Phinigel launched).

You are right that Phinigel will complete first and that's something that eluded me. However they're not going to shut P99 down. They've already publicly endorsed P99 as a fan project. No company would go back on such a public agreement like that.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fortunately we don't have to worry about Green stealing people from Phinny, because it will complete its progression before Green launches. Suggesting P99 would "steal" players from Phinny is both naive and irresponsible. There are a lot more differences beyond timeline. P99 does not appeal to the same player base. If it did, that would be grounds for shutting it down.

This. Also part of the agreement Rogean entered into was agreeing to cooperate with Daybreak on avoiding competition.

I'm honestly not sure if Rogean is even allowed to release a Luclin/PoP box anyway with the agreement he entered into.

The details haven't been fully disclosed.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. Also part of the agreement Rogean entered into was agreeing to cooperate with Daybreak on avoiding competition.

I'm honestly not sure if Rogean is even allowed to release a Luclin/PoP box anyway with the agreement he entered into.

The details haven't been fully disclosed.

which begs the question:
why aren't the details being released? First benghazi with the lies, now this... thanks authority for being shady again

[AzzarTheGod]

lol yeah its like Benghazi 2.0 around here!

[fuark]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. They wont wipe blue.
2. Yes it would sustain but now with even more neckbeards then p99 had when it started so everything thats valuable would be camped by the same people for the existence of them dropping(manastone,Guise) and raid mobs would be cleared within a month of it opening and nothing would really be different from blue other then the extended timeline that it has had.

100%.

Believe you me, if you are anything other than a hardcore neckbeard with enough time
to make this a part time job, you will not be looting a manastone, guise, rubicite BP or anything else of value.

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. They wont wipe blue.
2. Yes it would sustain but now with even more neckbeards then p99 had when it started so everything thats valuable would be camped by the same people for the existence of them dropping(manastone,Guise) and raid mobs would be cleared within a month of it opening and nothing would really be different from blue other then the extended timeline that it has had.

Players' inability to grasp this reality indicates their addiction. There's always a mitigating factor that prevents the player from having "been a contendah". If they just had a fair shot... they could do X, Y and Z, too.

In a community this insular, as long as their will holds out, the same folks rule any new server. It's not like it's going to be hidden from the players with the most time to invest and the straightest path to influence. The only time I have ever seen the balance of power shift in the whole P99 community comes down to a few things: a) current top dogs burn out because b) a new group of people are willing to double down on the known tactics to tire out the status quo, or c) a pile of people get banned for cheating.

The map is out. Nothing will change. That's not necessarily good or bad. It simply is the way it is.

[brecon]

Originally Posted by Lagaidh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Players' inability to grasp this reality indicates their addiction. There's always a mitigating factor that prevents the player from having "been a contendah". If they just had a fair shot... they could do X, Y and Z, too.

In a community this insular, as long as their will holds out, the same folks rule any new server. It's not like it's going to be hidden from the players with the most time to invest and the straightest path to influence. The only time I have ever seen the balance of power shift in the whole P99 community comes down to a few things: a) current top dogs burn out because b) a new group of people are willing to double down on the known tactics to tire out the status quo, or c) a pile of people get banned for cheating.

The map is out. Nothing will change. That's not necessarily good or bad. It simply is the way it is.

Some of us didn't hear about P99 til well into Kunark bro. So for some people those things do change who owns what.

More to the point...some people actually like progression. I don't necessarily want to sock a guise, but I do want to be in a guild in scrappy gear trying to solo Naggy the first time, when we're all 50s doing the encounter the way it was designed to be done.