Warriors rejected because of no Obsidian shard

[Ashimar]

"Rogean: Taunt puts you at the top of the aggro list. If you are already at the top, it does nothing. However it does fail a lot, and it doesn't have a visible fail message, so just keep trying until you have aggro, then stop using it until you lose aggro."

So why do warriors use Obsidian Shards for aggro when they can just taunt?
Is it because if taunt does fail, the proc from the weapon serves as a "taunt"?

or do people scowl at warriors to use Obsidian shards because of the 30 DMG
proc helps to lower mob HP strictly?

Whats the deal here people?

[Messianic]

Because Taunt sucks. Aggro by proc doesn't.

[Rhambuk]

Warriors rely on agro from DPS and Proc weaps. taunt works but its so rare you cant count on it in a group or every mob would be bouncing everywhere.

Taunt puts you at 1 agro pt higher than the highest person with agro also taunt is only effective on mobs even con and lower so you CANT taunt yellow/reds.

1pt of dmg = 1 pt of agro. So if your war is only using taunt and no proc weapons when they taunt agro off lets say a rog, the next melee round rog is just going to steal it back, since taunt barely works you wouldnt be able to hold agro.

So warriors use agro weapons, stun whips Obsidian shards yaks in particular because these weapon procs cause High agro, stun the ac debuff, and dmg stun.

Without proper agro weaps a war really isnt going to hold agro, its possible but not reliable.

this may not be 100% accurate i just kind of wrote a quicky if anyone wants to correct any mistakes.

Edit, Took me too long to write this theres already 5 responses =p

[Crone]

Lol taunt fails a lot, and only works on mobs that are lower level than you.

All those white-red con mobs you fight in a "good" exp group? Ya, taunt doesn't work on any of those, but weapon procs do.

[Ashimar]

Ok so the gist of this is that the Taunt ability works on lower lvl mob, but not higher lvl than you are.
And the aggro proc on weapons works on higher lvl mobs.

So would i even need to taunt if i was Duel weilding 2 aggro proccing weapons
against a Mob that is lower lvl?

[Crone]

Sometimes you don't get weapon procs, because they are random. If it's a lower level mob, I use taunt if it is not attacking me to try and bring it to me.

Originally Posted by Ashimar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok so the gist of this is that the Taunt ability works on lower lvl mob, but not higher lvl than you are.
And the aggro proc on weapons works on higher lvl mobs.

So would i even need to taunt if i was Duel weilding 2 aggro proccing weapons
against a Mob that is lower lvl?

[azeth]

Top of the aggro list example:

Warrior - 0 hate
Rogue - 1000 hate

Warrior hits taunt

Warrior - 1001 hate

Rogue attacks once

Rogue - > 1001 hate.

This is why you need proc aggro. Consider if your mob is The Spiroc Lord... the moment a class other than you takes aggro they are dead.

[Darkrainhunter]

Originally Posted by Ashimar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok so the gist of this is that the Taunt ability works on lower lvl mob, but not higher lvl than you are.
And the aggro proc on weapons works on higher lvl mobs.

So would i even need to taunt if i was Duel weilding 2 aggro proccing weapons
against a Mob that is lower lvl?

If you can convince somebody in your party to root the mob i.e. Druid, Wizard, Cleric, a Lootmonkey with 2 rooty swords, ect. You don't have to worry as much about your weapons, just be the closest to the mob.

before I got my shards, I used 2 lang's. With mob rooted it worked just fine.

[Estu]

Originally Posted by Darkrainhunter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can convince somebody in your party to root the mob i.e. Druid, Wizard, Cleric, a Lootmonkey with 2 rooty swords, ect. You don't have to worry as much about your weapons, just be the closest to the mob.

before I got my shards, I used 2 lang's. With mob rooted it worked just fine.

Problem with this is if the mob cons red (or yellow), which it often will in large groups, that root's either gonna get insta-resisted or is gonna last for two seconds, and in either case is gonna draw aggro onto whatever squishy class cast it.

[Hasbinbad]

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