Bracket based PvP Idea

[SamwiseRed]

So the basic idea is to elminate the whole "are we all in range to soandso" and other problems. I offer two solutions. This does not apply to 1-45 as these levels don't matter.

Solution 1, two brackets.
46-52 entry level end game
53-60 end game
Only level ranges within these brackets could pvp each other. Meaning a 45 couldnt attack a 46 or vice versa. This would allow newer guilds to progress and establish themselves before hitting 53. Only problem with this solution is that you would still have to enable FFA in certain zones such as Sebilis and Planes.

Solution 2, one end game bracket
46-60
Eliminates all confusion as to where you stand. Eliminates the need to FFA any zone (unless level 1s can goto Seb or what not.) Eliminates almost all of the OOR low level farmers. Significantly increases pvp. Downside is that this could lead to a lot more grief if guilds aren't willing to fortify their leveling zones.

Personally I think solution 2 is the best idea as its simple and serves a purpose.

[LoliPops]

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[easy_lee]

Brackets work better because everyone who belongs in a given zone should be able to kill everyone else who belongs in that zone. I suggested using who you can group with as the range simply because it's extremely easy and I miss the good old FFA days. FFA with teams would be kickass. But brackets are easy and they work.

[Uton]

Originally Posted by easy_lee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Brackets work better because everyone who belongs in a given zone should be able to kill everyone else who belongs in that zone.

Brackets don't work period. zone pvp ranges and level restrictions would be the only way to do it.

Seb, fear/hate are the only true "pvp" zones on this server, where you zone in knowing that pvp is right around the corner and no one is a safe oor healer.

ie: pvp is open for lvl 6-18 in CB and no one 19+ can enter the zone. Thats the best chance you have at making pvp ... pvp.

Or go SZ ruleset and have pvp open to all levels in all zones - most of the server would be back on blue the first day.

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by Uton [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Brackets don't work period. zone pvp ranges and level restrictions would be the only way to do it.

Seb, fear/hate are the only true "pvp" zones on this server, where you zone in knowing that pvp is right around the corner and no one is a safe oor healer.

ie: pvp is open for lvl 6-18 in CB and no one 19+ can enter the zone. Thats the best chance you have at making pvp ... pvp.

Or go SZ ruleset and have pvp open to all levels in all zones - most of the server would be back on blue the first day.

Well, regardless of how it's done, PvP ranges should increase and the mechanical level advantage (hit/resist rates affected by level) should go away. We can all argue over what works best, but I'm sure the administration would know the right thing to do if they implemented this.

[Eslade]

why not just code it so that if you attack a group, that entire group can choose to join in or just watch?

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Eslade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why not just code it so that if you attack a group, that entire group can choose to join in or just watch?

they tried it in beta, ended up being buggy as hell. I think it would be a nightmare to code as some spells would be hard to flag as helpful or harmful IE dispels, cure disease for crim pots, see invis (to fuck up buff stack and bottom slot dots), ect. I remember Canni flagging you for all pvp levels or some shit. It is just too much.

i chose brackets for the simple reason as they are simple. 1-45 is leveling. 46+ is competing. if you can complete your epic and travel to the planes, you are a big boy now.

they should also make YT 46+ already. this would help with low level griefing and also the crushbone leaderboard would actually reflect end game pvp going down.

it would knock out a flock of birds with one stone.

[Eslade]

why not just make it any spell that you cast on another player flags you as soon as you start casting?

[easy_lee]

Originally Posted by Eslade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

why not just make it any spell that you cast on another player flags you as soon as you start casting?

Because then people will just wait for someone to be at low health, then nuke them.

[Eslade]

Originally Posted by easy_lee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because then people will just wait for someone to be at low health, then nuke them.

Don't attack a group of oor people? it would solve more problems than it would create. porting should be able to be interrupted. same with rezzing. I really don't see the problem.