Miscellaneous: Imbued Field Plate (Bertoxxulous) should have Gnome

[Vega]

This may have never been reported because I'm probably one of the few people dumb enough to make this armor, but the useable races/classes are not correct for classic currently. This is what the bracer looks like ingame:
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And this is what it looked like in classic:
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source: https://web.archive.org/web/20020112...html?item=5661 (oldest wayback is Jan 2002, but notice the last updated is April 2001)


I think the explanation for this is from a comment on the current Allakhazam page:

Was made one of these by a friend on Terris-Thule (thanks Skrabian!) It is the only cultural armor that a human smith can make for a bertox following gnomish-cleric.

On myself, it appears as a deep red, however, GNOMES have been removed from classes who can wear!!! (happened round the time gnomes could become SKs)

Dunno if any other pieces have changed, but hopefully its just a bug to be fixed

source: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/i...01995271076572


I'm guessing maybe they didn't want gnome SKs to wear the armor? But I have no clue why paladin was suddenly added to the classes.

[nilbog]

I'd like to know if it was only this piece, or all pieces.

More research!

[Vega]

I hadn't found any other screen shots for other pieces, but I'll try to look some more. You think they had cultural pieces where some pieces were worn by some races, and other pieces weren't? I've honestly never seen that for any of the other cultural armors, and would be shocked if human Bertoxx armor was the exception.

Edit:

Ah, there we go, not screenshots, but something
https://web.archive.org/web/20030419...tml?item=15642
https://web.archive.org/web/20021118...tml?item=15626
https://web.archive.org/web/20021104...tml?item=15623

[Vega]

For completness, here's a list of the wayback links for each piece. There aren't links to some from as far back as the change should have been, but all show they at least had gnome on them at some point (and no paladin), and Alla was probably just slow at updating their site.

Breastplate
Greaves
Helm
Vambraces
Boots
Gauntlets
Visor
Pauldron
Cloak
Belt
Collar

I'm not seeing a whole lot else. This armor was probably as uncommon in classic as it is here. I'll post if I find something else though.

[pharmakos]

why would these have PAL on them at all? Bertoxx Paladin? huh?

[Vega]

Yeah, I really have no clue about the paladin. I think they were trying to adjust the armor because of the gnome sk/pally change, but they didn't seem to adjust it in a sensible way. Perhaps it was a mistake that they just never fixed.

Also, found a little more evidence, this one an EQTraders link. If you look down the table you can see gnome is one of the races they have listed for the Field Plate - Bertoxxolous:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010611...ural_index.htm

[ArumTP]

Stopped reading there

Field Plate - Cazic-Thule
(Human cultural)

Human (male / female)
Barbarian (male / female)
Wood Elf (male / female)
Half Elf (male / female)
Dwarf (male / female)
Gnome (male / female)
Halfling (male / female)

Cazic-Thule has never been a human deity.

[Vega]

Nope, obviously some misinformation on there. I definitely wouldn't have posted it if it was my only proof. But in conjunction with the rest I still think it's valid.


Edit: They seem to have corrected their site later that year, so CT armor is gone, but gnome bert is still showing:
https://web.archive.org/web/20011213...ural_index.htm

[Nirgon]

Sullon Zek added deity's to race/class combos that were not otherwise possible and may have had an impact on what displays on items globally

My 2cp hope it halps

[Vega]

Bump. Thoughts?