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Old 12-07-2014, 08:41 AM
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Default Dispell mobs suddenly a bit strong?

Before I am in with a bug report, what's going on with debuff/dispelling by mobs now since patch?

It's like every thing is dispelling FREQUENTLY and landing frequently. We tried doing some undead caster mobs post 50, and it was a purple pixel fest with the constant dispell attempts.

I even had a level 30sh mob hit one of my 60s with a Tash, and then immediately proceeded to cast a single dispell that wiped out four buffs immediately(two stat buffs, a sow and a talisman). Both times I tried to interrupt and I was also pushing the mob.

Yikes!
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Old 12-07-2014, 08:45 AM
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Sebilis frog shammies are certainly seem to doing more dispelling than they were before the patch.

Fix?: Get 2 clickies, and reclick as soon as you can. For me that's a Shrunken Goblin Skull Earring and a rogue mask in the top 2 slots but there's a bunch of others to pick from.

If it was as bad/frequent as the dispellers in Fear or Sky I think it'd be time to riot big time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:37 AM
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Desert Madman ripped 2 buffs off me at 58. You know. The ones in oasis. Working as intended.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:44 AM
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Desert Madman ripped 2 buffs off me at 58. You know. The ones in oasis. Working as intended.
Did you put a bug report in the bug forum?
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:25 AM
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Thats classic.

Dispells should not be resistable regardless of level.

The one thing I am unsure of is the counter mechanic. I like the implementation, but I think that clickies should be a guaranteed 1 roll. Using clickies was a pretty standard/reliable method of protecting against debuffs. Having a chance for your clicky goblin earring or telescope to roll an 8, leading to a buff in slot 3 or 4 getting ripped, I don't believe is classic.

Those top slot clickies should be ripped first every time a dispell is cast... which works 7/8 times. But that 1/8, losing Haste or C2 in slot 4 is annoying.
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:41 AM
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Dal's right, it's classic. You prob never noticed it before because dispels being broke/resisted. Also, they shouldn't dispel random buff slots like they are currently doing. Depending on the level of the spell cast buffs should be dispelled from the top slot down.
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Old 12-07-2014, 04:15 PM
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Dal's right, it's classic. You prob never noticed it before because dispels being broke/resisted. Also, they shouldn't dispel random buff slots like they are currently doing. Depending on the level of the spell cast buffs should be dispelled from the top slot down.
Yes, I noticed that as well, some dispells hit the buffs as far down as slot 5.

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Casters are casting their dispel spells way too often though - it's like if they detect buffs on you they won't stop until you have zero.

I remember frogs in seb etc casting dispel maybe once per fight.

Agreed, I remember some mobs being particularly 'painful' and avoided because they dispelled a lot. Though this is like every mob that's a caster. It looks silly with them casting dispell more than nukes, heals, or gates.

@Daldaen,

That's a great explanation however in my example of being tashed and dispelled by a level 30, as a level 60, my buffs were 50+. So unless I was really unlucky with their counters....
Besides he wiped out FOUR buffs; according to your notes, it should have stopped after the first buff disappeared.
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Old 12-07-2014, 08:22 PM
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Also, they shouldn't dispel random buff slots like they are currently doing. Depending on the level of the spell cast buffs should be dispelled from the top slot down.
This. PLEASE change the random buff removal. I want my shadowbond back. (its also not classic, why do you think people loaded their first 5 slots with junk)
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Old 12-08-2014, 01:23 AM
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Root a felwithe guard and you can test this very easily, as it's their only spell other than a root of their own.

I've had them dispel Arch Shielding/Dead Man Floating (slots 3 and 4) and completely bypass the Jboots / Lich in slot 1 and 2 since patch.
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Old 12-08-2014, 05:26 PM
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Dal's right, it's classic. You prob never noticed it before because dispels being broke/resisted. Also, they shouldn't dispel random buff slots like they are currently doing. Depending on the level of the spell cast buffs should be dispelled from the top slot down.
This is correct. Common practice to drop any buffs that were in your first and second buff slot and fill them with clickies.
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