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Yes, I would absolutely donate money for this 256 62.75%
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:50 PM
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This is an idea that I discussed on Sirken's stream and before that it was an idea that many of the casual raiding guilds discussed. Here's the premise:

A new blue server would be created. Players would be allowed to /movelog to this new server. On this new server the raid scene would be an enforced rotation modeled after the current class R rotation system. Raid disputes would be adjudicated by a council of raiding guild officers but would ultimately be enforced by staff at its highest levels.

If players want to subscribe to the hardcore mindset then they can stay on the current blue server. If players want to experience a more civilized raid environment then they can movelog to the new server.

For an idea like this to happen it would first have to be approved by Rogean/Bog and then funded by the interested players.

So, bottom line, would you donate to play on this type of server?
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:55 PM
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This is an idea that I discussed on Sirken's stream and before that it was an idea that many of the casual raiding guilds discussed. Here's the premise:

A new blue server would be created. Players would be allowed to /movelog to this new server. On this new server the raid scene would be an enforced rotation modeled after the current class R rotation system. Raid disputes would be adjudicated by a council of raiding guild officers but would ultimately be enforced by staff at its highest levels.

If players want to subscribe to the hardcore mindset then they can stay on the current blue server. If players want to experience a more civilized raid environment then they can movelog to the new server.

For an idea like this to happen it would first have to be approved by Rogean/Bog and then funded by the interested players.

So, bottom line, would you donate to play on this type of server?
No No.. it needs to be constant donations for the monthly expenses not just a one time donation of 1$. Got to try to think man...
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:55 PM
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Raid scene is over populated.

XP scene is about right.

You basically would end up with a red pop server with no pvp imo.

This has all been a result of a prolonged Kunark that had tons of bonus xp events.

I think another blue server with a fresh start for Velious would be a good idea honestly. You could eventually merge the servers too with no fear of clashing rulesets like I saw with teams/ffa pvp.

I see a tidal wave of people coming back to blue for Velious and north ro/ice clad being so bad GMs will actually have to summon people to eastern wastes or... I mean... really I don't know how to handle that. This isn't the red propaganda talking either.

Chest, if you want to start from scratch on a Velious server and divide up the over populated raid scene.. I'd support it for sure. It's just over populated on the current blue box and 1 blue server for this many raiding guilds sure ain't classic.

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Old 11-12-2014, 01:03 PM
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No No.. it needs to be constant donations for the monthly expenses not just a one time donation of 1$. Got to try to think man...
I'm going to try to keep this civilized Alarti, so play nice. I guess it all depends on how much the financial upkeep becomes should their be an additional server. I think the majority of players would be ok with this concept tbh.


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Raid scene is over populated.

XP scene is about right.

You basically would end up with a red pop server with no pvp imo.

This has all been a result of a prolonged Kunark that had tons of bonus xp events.

I think another blue server with a fresh start for Velious would be a good idea honestly. You could eventually merge the servers too with no fear of clashing rulesets like I saw with teams/ffa pvp.

I see a tidal wave of people coming back to blue for Velious and north ro/ice clad being so bad GMs will actually have to summon people to eastern wastes or... I mean... really I don't know how to handle that. This isn't the red propaganda talking either.

Chest, if you want to start from scratch on a Velious server and divide up the over populated raid scene.. I'd support it for sure. It's just over populated on the current blue box and 1 blue server for this many raiding guilds sure ain't classic.

Holo crootin.
I think you're underestimating just how overpopulated blue is entirely, and I think you're underestimating the number of casual raiding guilds that would like to experience content without subscribing to the extreme playstyle mindset. At least 8 class R guilds are already on board for this idea and id bet that the majority of the non raiding players would like to see something like this as well because it ensures that they'll be allowed to raid without being forced to sock.

If any server would be left with a "red population" I think it would be the hardcore server. I believe that the majority of the playerbase would secede if given the option.
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Old 11-12-2014, 01:43 PM
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I'm going to try to keep this civilized Alarti, so play nice. I guess it all depends on how much the financial upkeep becomes should their be an additional server. I think the majority of players would be ok with this concept tbh.

The point is your poll does absolutely nothing to test is a new server would be a viable option. Its just an ego booster.
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Old 11-12-2014, 02:20 PM
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The point is your poll does absolutely nothing to test is a new server would be a viable option. Its just an ego booster.
I don't see the "Chest is Awesome" option.
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Old 11-12-2014, 02:23 PM
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I don't see the "Chest is Awesome" option.
You poor troll. There might be other ways to boost an ego. I have a very difficult time believing you are actually this stupid.
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Old 11-13-2014, 08:56 PM
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I'm going to try to keep this civilized Alarti, so play nice. I guess it all depends on how much the financial upkeep becomes should their be an additional server. I think the majority of players would be ok with this concept tbh.


I think you're underestimating just how overpopulated blue is entirely,
And your overestimating how necessary competitive raiding is for the entire server in general.


Top R guilds and C guilds goto RED. You get a place with less population and yet more competitiveness - you know to bring out the best in you.
Blue gets rid of the vileness and everyone is happy.

The end.


TDLR; no need for a new server. Guilds just need to grow up or get out.


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MQers just bottleneck epic mobs. Not saying epics should be a breeze, but think of those pals who've waited and waited on Verina Tomb, Ragefire, Cazic Thule etc etc.

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You must be joking man, that wouldn't be 'classic.' The rules are simple, every one has to suffer while 'classic' mechanics are exploited and abused for nothing but greed.
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Sounds like the lawyer server.
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Old 11-12-2014, 01:05 PM
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Nirgon, his point is that the server that "ends up with a red pop server with no pvp" would be the current (class-C) blue and that the majority of Blue99's population would fund a new server and /movelog to it once launched, on the basis of being exclusively class-R style rotation raiding.
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