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Old 10-14-2014, 10:33 AM
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Old 10-14-2014, 12:04 PM
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I see what amounts to 10-12 corpses. Hardly, a holocaust. Nevermind the fact, the US has Guantanamo (800 prisoners tortured on a regular basis). Nevermind, that the US regularly sends war prisoners to be tortured/executed/jailed for life with no trial in allied countries. Nevermind, many of the stories released about Syria have been proven to be complete fabrications or propaganda by the US/Israel/Turkey. Nevermind, there isnt a single piece of evidence that links this directly to Assad....for all you know it was ISIS that committed these crimes or a rogue general.

I thought people would have at least half a clue after the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Vietnam, etc. that the US usually fabricates the evidence they need to bomb brown folk back to the stone age. Then they swoop in, prop up a dictator, and multinational companies take over from there to siphon all the wealth from the region.
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Old 10-14-2014, 12:35 PM
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I see what amounts to 10-12 corpses. Hardly, a holocaust. Nevermind the fact, the US has Guantanamo (800 prisoners tortured on a regular basis). Nevermind, that the US regularly sends war prisoners to be tortured/executed/jailed for life with no trial in allied countries. Nevermind, many of the stories released about Syria have been proven to be complete fabrications or propaganda by the US/Israel/Turkey. Nevermind, there isnt a single piece of evidence that links this directly to Assad....for all you know it was ISIS that committed these crimes or a rogue general.

I thought people would have at least half a clue after the invasion of Iraq, Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Vietnam, etc. that the US usually fabricates the evidence they need to bomb brown folk back to the stone age. Then they swoop in, prop up a dictator, and multinational companies take over from there to siphon all the wealth from the region.
Well you know, if you branched out of just one fucking article, or fucking googled the other pictures, you would see more. You could read the article too you dumb faggot.
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Old 10-14-2014, 01:46 PM
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Well you know, if you branched out of just one fucking article, or fucking googled the other pictures, you would see more. You could read the article too you dumb faggot.
no one gives a fuck about your article you fat loser

excellent title BTW, because this is about as real as the holocaust was
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Old 10-14-2014, 02:41 PM
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Well you know, if you branched out of just one fucking article, or fucking googled the other pictures, you would see more. You could read the article too you dumb faggot.
I read the article. The photos were smuggled out of Syria by a photographer who has since defected and is known only by his code name, Caesar. That isnt proof even by US judicial standards (which are poor to begin with). Show me indisputable proof that Assad was complicate or ordered these tortures and it isnt just some journalist paid off by the US to justify another war.

Even if the photos were 100% proof that Assad ordered torture and murder. Why should US citizens give two shits? It isnt our place to police the world. It only creates blowback and hatred towards the US. Show me one country that is glad the US poked it's nose into their internal affairs. It always comes back to bite us in the ass. The only people that benefit from unending wars are oil barons, mercenaries, and weapons manufacturers.
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Old 10-14-2014, 03:21 PM
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Even if the photos were 100% proof that Assad ordered torture and murder. Why should US citizens give two shits?
Well, there are four ways in which a country can lose its sovereignty according to international law.

1. Irresponsible development of nuclear weaponry - violating the non-proliferation act in letter or spirit
2. The invasion of or aggression against other sovereign states
3. Violating the genocide convention
4. Giving refuge or acting as a host for terrorists

It's not about policing the world, but rather ensuring that rogue states don't end up harboring and exporting terrorism, and aren't allowed to commit war crimes against humanity. It's no secret that Saddam Hussein tried developing nukes. I think we can all imagine what the world would be like if Israel hadn't bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981. He also used WMDs against Kurds, and was constantly trying to get more.

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It isnt our place to police the world. It only creates blowback and hatred towards the US.
Right, blowback and hatred from those who want to murder innocent civilians, export terrorism, rape and throw battery acid on the faces of non-compliant women, kill people for apostacy, and hold neighboring countries - and eventually the world - in a perpetual state of hostage blackmail once they get their hands on nuclear arms. It's time to stand up to this hatred and stop cowering beneath it. Just because they hate our freedom, our secularism, our thriving society and quality of life doesn't mean we should stop standing up for human rights. Genocide - no matter where it happens - absolutely needs to be prevented by any means possible.

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Show me one country that is glad the US poked it's nose into their internal affairs.
Kurdistan.
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Old 10-14-2014, 04:39 PM
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Well, there are four ways in which a country can lose its sovereignty according to international law.

1. Irresponsible development of nuclear weaponry - violating the non-proliferation act in letter or spirit
2. The invasion of or aggression against other sovereign states
3. Violating the genocide convention
4. Giving refuge or acting as a host for terrorists

It's not about policing the world, but rather ensuring that rogue states don't end up harboring and exporting terrorism, and aren't allowed to commit war crimes against humanity. It's no secret that Saddam Hussein tried developing nukes. I think we can all imagine what the world would be like if Israel hadn't bombed Iraq's nuclear reactor in 1981. He also used WMDs against Kurds, and was constantly trying to get more.

Right, blowback and hatred from those who want to murder innocent civilians, export terrorism, rape and throw battery acid on the faces of non-compliant women, kill people for apostacy, and hold neighboring countries - and eventually the world - in a perpetual state of hostage blackmail once they get their hands on nuclear arms. It's time to stand up to this hatred and stop cowering beneath it. Just because they hate our freedom, our secularism, our thriving society and quality of life doesn't mean we should stop standing up for human rights. Genocide - no matter where it happens - absolutely needs to be prevented by any means possible.

Kurdistan.
International law is laughable at best. The US constantly goes against UN and international policy but you dont hear France or Germany calling for all out war on the US.

"1. Irresponsible development of nuclear weaponry - violating the non-proliferation act in letter or spirit"

North Korea and Iran come to mind. Let's invade them too.

"2. The invasion of or aggression against other sovereign states"

When did Syria invade another country? Also, isnt the US guilty of this in dozens of countries? Never heard of Nicaragua or Columbia or Venezuela?

"3. Violating the genocide convention"
It remains to be proven that Assad has committed a genocide. Also, North Korea gets another check mark here. Two reasons to invade them now.

"4. Giving refuge or acting as a host for terrorists"
North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Iran come to mind. 3 checks for North Korea but yet no one dare dreams of invading these countries.

Syria may be guilty of 1 of the 4 things you listed. It isnt for certain but I will give you the benefit of the doubt. North Korea is guilty of 3 and Iran 2. China has a pretty shitty track record too.

Why arent we invading all these countries and propping up "democracies"? I mean, the US has unlimited resources and it's young soldiers love being ripped apart by IDEs. I for one propose unending wars. It's not like we actually have to pay for this shit by borrowing money from China. You have it completely right. Who needs a strong economy, low unemployment, public infrastructure, schools, etc when you can spend the money on bombs?

"It's not about policing the world, but rather ensuring that rogue states don't end up harboring and exporting terrorism"

It is about policing the world. It is about grabbing countries for the rich to siphon off of. It is about reckless policy that has left this country bankrupt and hated around the globe.

Is Iraq more stable now than it was under Hussein? Absolutely not. Did a US invasion make Afghanistan more stable? NO. Vietnam? NO. Nicaragua? NO. Columbia? NO. Cuba? NO. Iran? NO. Cambodia? NO. Ghana? NO. Dominican Republic? NO. Venezuela? NO. Chile? NO. Guatemala? NO.

It's a really shitty track record and you have to be a complete asshat to think it is a good policy.

"Right, blowback and hatred from those who want to..."

Uh huh, that's exactly what is happening. Those darn terrorist hate freedom so they flew planes into buildings. It had NOTHING to do with soldiers being trained and armed by the US in Afghanistan. It has nothing to do with the US propping up brutal dictators in those regions. They are simply freedom haters. /rolleyes

"Kurdistan"

Not even gonna touch this tripe.
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Old 10-14-2014, 02:47 PM
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Well you know, if you branched out of just one fucking article, or fucking googled the other pictures, you would see more. You could read the article too you dumb faggot.
I also would like to point out how you completely ignored my point about Guantanamo and the US sending captured "terrorist" to places like Turkey to get tortured. Apparently, it is ok when the US does it to thousands of people but if it is even remotely possible that a non-ally of the US murdered a few dozen radicalized militants (that were funded and backed by Turkey, Israel, and the US) your panties get all twisted.

Drink more kool-aid.
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Old 10-14-2014, 01:25 PM
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