Game Mechanics: Charm not properly charming NPC *or* PC pets

[xblade724]

Charming PC **OR** even NPC pet "will not take hold".. is this a bug? Doesn't seem right.....

[Nirgon]

It should insta gib summoned pets if it lands.

Should not hit players.

[xblade724]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It should insta gib summoned pets if it lands.

Should not hit players.

Right (gib = give? lol) --

* Charm NPC/PC pet, nothing happens (spell will not take hold)
* Charm NPC pet owner, success + owner's pet suicides
* Charm PC pet owner, nothing happens (spell will not take hold).

Charming the NPC pet's (not their masters) from either a NPC or PC will fail due to "protection". I believe this is not correct: You should be able to charm NPC/PC pets, right? Like a shadowman npc's necro pet, or a real player's mage pet?

[Nirgon]

Gib = insta kill

Bards on RZ insta killed mage epic pets all da time :P

Puppet strings etc should do this too, not just bard charm

And on the other hand... bard chants/denon's etc should be very easy to resist

[xblade724]

WOW that's really interesting... so if I charm the pet itself = insta kill hm?

I suppose it's two things:
1) Currently a bug since nothing happens when you charm pets themselves ~ need to remove that "protection", almost like pvp protection
2) Freaking awesome

[Nirgon]

Well don't get too excited all at once

A summoned pet with an MR buff was nearly magic immune if it didn't get tashed/dispelled. This worked out of the box on the Lucid Vision server years ago for some reason.

[xblade724]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well don't get too excited all at once

A summoned pet with an MR buff was nearly magic immune if it didn't get tashed/dispelled. This worked out of the box on the Lucid Vision server years ago for some reason.

Hmm, it's not that it's getting resisted though, it's just plain "not working". Like, "The spell will not take hold" or something like that, as if I cast a damage song on an OOR person.

High resists is cool -- It would be fun to just have a "chance" of that happening. As long as *something* can be at least attempted~

slightly off topic, but resists Q: I remember on pvp, they made it so that even if you have 10000MR, there would always be a very small % of something landing no matter what (never 100% blocking) from pure luck.. does this apply here too?

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by xblade724 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm, it's not that it's getting resisted though, it's just plain "not working". Like, "The spell will not take hold" or something like that, as if I cast a damage song on an OOR person.

High resists is cool -- It would be fun to just have a "chance" of that happening. As long as *something* can be at least attempted~

slightly off topic, but resists Q: I remember on pvp, they made it so that even if you have 10000MR, there would always be a very small % of something landing no matter what (never 100% blocking) from pure luck.. does this apply here too?

Had an even con pal on live fully resist a conflag when he was on a CR (no buffs/gear).

Don't think that can happen here.

[Pudge]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Had an even con pal on live fully resist a conflag when he was on a CR (no buffs/gear).

Don't think that can happen here.

Yes. Resist gear is given too much weight here in general. On live, there was simply a higher "randomness" factor in terms of how spells landed. (Could very rarely full resist even naked - but also get blasted for max damage even at 255 resist. Partials also had a wider range) Here, we have a very tight band of possibilities at any given resist.

[Grimjaw]

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but also get blasted for max damage even at 255 resist.

that was like luclin braah, new expansion patch dropped messing everything up for a bit (getting rooted with full mr gear). we were ridin our luclin mounts.
they eventually put it back tho