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Old 07-17-2014, 02:13 PM
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Default shaman epic faction WTF???

So I've had to have a friend charm the stupid thing for me since it isn't considered an animal. I got the first gem and turned that in at freeport. gem. I've turned in two sets woe/envy/marrs promise. I'm still apprehensive??? The wandering spirit also gave me a gem when charmed but the spirit in Ej won't accept it. Is this working as intended?
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:19 PM
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Sort of.

The part that isn't working as intended is the fact that shamans start at Apprehensively. Every class should be defaulted to apprehensively upon character creation, EXCEPT Shamans. They should default to Indifferently, allowing you to do these parts of the quest.

A few people have randomly posted evidence but there is no specific thread about this issue. Get a few quotes from 2000-2001 about starting at indifferent and you should be gold and they can patch it so that all shamans begin at indifferent.
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:25 PM
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Every class should be defaulted to apprehensively upon character creation, EXCEPT Shamans. They should default to Indifferently, allowing you to do these parts of the quest.
?

Yeah need some research about this. Easy to fix if so.

Or, create shaman on eqlive, find a TrueSpirit npc, con it. Screenshot and submit. Better evidence than nothing.
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Old 07-17-2014, 03:06 PM
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Yeah need some research about this. Easy to fix if so.

Or, create shaman on eqlive, find a TrueSpirit npc, con it. Screenshot and submit. Better evidence than nothing.
This isn't a classic post by any means but from this other thread:

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Should have used sneak instead of faction pendant to start it off. I tried various characters; I know that beastlords and zerkers have the same good faction as Shamans while all other classes are under par. Maybe I'll try it again."
I can look for more in era about shamans starting indifferent or I can log on my PC shaman to confirm the above quote.

2007 Allakhazam

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Camin in Erudin WILL boost your Truespirit faction by giving him 1k plat per hand in. I went from Indifferent to Ally on my Barb Shaman in 92 hand ins. (Yes that is 92k plat).

He is located upstairs of the inn (first building on left wall when u zone into Erudin) he stays in the first room on the left upstairs.
2001 Allakhazam

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I am a level 51 Iksar Shaman, and everyone is indifferent or better along this quest. I read some people trying to start this before even level 30. With the exception of possiblly getting the Shield of Falsehood, I would not recommend starting this until the high 40's. You need at least a full group of high 40's to take down Black Dire, and all of the uber mobs in CoM and the Hole, take 3-5 level 46-60 groups.
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Old 08-07-2014, 06:02 PM
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Yeah need some research about this. Easy to fix if so.

Or, create shaman on eqlive, find a TrueSpirit npc, con it. Screenshot and submit. Better evidence than nothing.
Wouldn't the shaman epic guide itself be some proof to this?

https://web.archive.org/web/20001216...ar_of_Fate.htm

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Capt Surestout says 'You have run me through! Beware the Pirates of Gunthak.. They will avenge me.. Unngh!!

"A lesser spirit" will spawn where he's killed.

a lesser spirit begins to cast a spell.

a lesser spirit's body pulses with energy.

a lesser spirit regards you indifferently -- You could probably win this fight
It's the very first step, no?
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Old 08-09-2014, 12:21 PM
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Wouldn't the shaman epic guide itself be some proof to this?

https://web.archive.org/web/20001216...ar_of_Fate.htm

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It's the very first step, no?
Yea this seems like proof enough to me. Seems legit.

Shamans start at Indifferent
Non-shaman start at Apprehensively.
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Old 08-12-2014, 07:33 AM
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Shamans start at Indifferent
Fixed, pending update.

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Non-shaman start at Apprehensively.
In the faction tables currently, enchanters start at indifferent. All other classes seem to be apprehensive. Anyone know more about this?
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Old 07-17-2014, 02:28 PM
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Did you skip the test of patience? I don't know how much faction it gives vs. a woe/envy turn-in, but it might be more than one turn-in (which would explain what you're seeing, if you skipped it).
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Old 07-17-2014, 03:01 PM
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On live (Vulak server) I was able to raise faction by speaking to the true spirit in BB after killing Peg Leg and then porting to WC and running to Freeport to turn in the gem to Bondl Felligan. This was done with an Iksar Shaman without any other faction work. I repeated the process until faction was maxed and skipped to the tear turn in portion of the quest. I have not played a shaman on p99 but this is how the shaman epic is working on Live.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:33 AM
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lets get this fixed. Is there anyone that believes that shamans ought to have to track down an enchanter at multiple points during this quest in order to get the damn mob charmed so that it will talk to them?
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