Haste Stacking.. Does Bard Haste stack with Chanter/shammy/item Haste

[knottyb0y]

Hey

I am sitting here looking through my songs and wondering if all bard haste songs will stack with enchanter/shaman haste spells or if only some of them will (if so which ones). Also I'm pretty sure the songs stack with haste items but if anyone has a definite answer I'd really appreciate the help. I'm having trouble finding a clear answer on this issue, and really need to study up to maximize my bardic knowledge!

[Braveguard]

I figure the quickest way to get you some informed responses is to offer my own less-informed response.

Yes, they stack... up to a max limit. You have three haste "buckets"... spell, song and item.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Braveguard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I figure the quickest way to get you some informed responses is to offer my own less-informed response.

Yes, they stack... up to a max limit. You have three haste "buckets"... spell, song and item.

Spell and song hastes do not stack. You are thinking of haste version 2 and overhaste which comes out much much later.

Current classic server example:

You have a chanter and bard in your group

Bard sings: Jonthan's Provocation

1: Increase Attack Speed by 48% (L45) to 50% (L47)
2: Increase STR by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72)
4: Increase ATK by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72)

Enchanter casts: Swift Like the Wind

1: Increase Attack Speed by 60%

The player (bard) with get:
1: Increase Attack Speed by 60% from the enchanter
2: Increase STR by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72) from the bard
4: Increase ATK by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72) from the bard

Add any lame haste item such as a Swirlspine belt (16% haste)
and you are at the haste cap for a level 50 player.

[Otto]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spell and song hastes do not stack. You are thinking of haste version 2 and overhaste which comes out much much later.

Current classic server example:

You have a chanter and bard in your group

Bard sings: Jonthan's Provocation

1: Increase Attack Speed by 48% (L45) to 50% (L47)
2: Increase STR by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72)
4: Increase ATK by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72)

Enchanter casts: Swift Like the Wind

1: Increase Attack Speed by 60%

The players with get:
1: Increase Attack Speed by 60% from the enchanter
2: Increase STR by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72) from the bard
4: Increase ATK by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72) from the bard

Add any lame haste item such as a Swirlspine belt (16% haste)
and you are at the haste cap for a level 50 player.

This.

[knottyb0y]

Thank you very much for the clarification. it was hard finding "classic" info on this

[MiRo2]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spell and song hastes do not stack.

True

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bard sings: Jonthan's Provocation

1: Increase Attack Speed by 48% (L45) to 50% (L47)
2: Increase STR by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72)
4: Increase ATK by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72)

Enchanter casts: Swift Like the Wind

1: Increase Attack Speed by 60%

The players with get:
1: Increase Attack Speed by 60% from the enchanter
2: Increase STR by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72) from the bard
4: Increase ATK by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72) from the bard

Only untrue because Jonthan line is self only. Replace with with any other haste + effect song(Anthe de Arms, Villa's Verses of Celerity, McVaxius Berserker Crescendo, Verses of Victory) and this will be true.

*Edit*

Source http://cloud.prohosting.com/~talone/HasteData.htm

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by MiRo2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

True
Only untrue because Jonthan line is self only.

Sorry typo, meant to write player not players.

[Braveguard]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spell and song hastes do not stack. You are thinking of haste version 2 and overhaste which comes out much much later.

Current classic server example:

You have a chanter and bard in your group

Bard sings: Jonthan's Provocation

1: Increase Attack Speed by 48% (L45) to 50% (L47)
2: Increase STR by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72)
4: Increase ATK by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72)

Enchanter casts: Swift Like the Wind

1: Increase Attack Speed by 60%

The player (bard) with get:
1: Increase Attack Speed by 60% from the enchanter
2: Increase STR by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72) from the bard
4: Increase ATK by 13 (L45) to 20 (L72) from the bard

Add any lame haste item such as a Swirlspine belt (16% haste)
and you are at the haste cap for a level 50 player.

I told you that would be the quick way to get a good answer, LOL! Yeah, I never worried too much about it. I've never played a hasting class (*gasp*) and I've always trusted people to know their own job so it's never occured to me to figure it out. And I was remembering the bard overhaste... thus my confusion.

[Trimm]

Spell, Song and item haste all stack up to a max of 74-75% haste. Multiples of the same types of haste do not stack, and the game will use the higher of the two.

[Deric]

In terms of classic(now):

-Songs and Spell hastes do NOT stack. (The higher % will take effect only)
-Multiple pieces of equipment haste do NOT stack. (The higher % will take effect only)

So: 1 song or spell + 1 haste equipment is the fastest you will get at this time.


...... ..

In Velious(Far into future of p99):

-There are 2 songs that WILL stack, but you cannot not exceed the 100% cap for lvl 60.