Game Mechanics: Item loot: a PLAGUE to the red RMT market

[Nirgon]

How bout it Rogean?

I've advocated 4 lvls / no xp on death / item loot from day 1.... we're so close now.

Alecta got us to the point you can see a looted player's equipped/bags.. only thing left is make everything but primary/secondary/range/no drop/bags lootable.

This also puts unrest griefer twinks on NOTICE.

Furthermore, it gives players a reason (read: reason to log in) not to be in the huge zerg guild that "kills the server".

More players, less RMT, more praise and donations from people who actually appreciate classic EQ PvP.

I'm sure you will hear people saying they will leave immediately if implemented, but let's be real. They said that when you delvl'd them for MQ, or removed maps, or compass, or fixed invis pulling, or fixed Sirran, or fixed proximity aggro... now its time to add a classic feature that will crush thoughts of buying pixels.

I have it on good authority that the High Priest may drop a contribution or two to red. I can think of no one better to seal the deal.

Oh yeah, it is classic on an FFA server. It's just another classic feature that didn't make it in at launch like everything else we've researched and worked so hard to get right on blue.

[Potus]

Item Loot isn't classic. It got removed from all servers by Verant for a reason.

And why would people not want to buy items still? If anything it'd promote RMT. Why go back and camp for hours when you can just paypal some guy.

Put griefer twinks on notice? Are you dumb? They're going to grief even harder. They'll be able to kill lowbies and steal their stuff. In the off chance you somehow kill a griefer twink you won't be able to loot their epic or a lot of their no drop gear.

A lot of your bug threads and suggestions are horribly bad. Please stop.

[Nirgon]

"It isn't classic"

Actually lol'd.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"It isn't classic"

Actually lol'd.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Item Loot isn't classic. It got removed from all servers by Verant for a reason.

And why would people not want to buy items still? If anything it'd promote RMT. Why go back and camp for hours when you can just paypal some guy.

Put griefer twinks on notice? Are you dumb? They're going to grief even harder. They'll be able to kill lowbies and steal their stuff. In the off chance you somehow kill a griefer twink you won't be able to loot their epic or a lot of their no drop gear.

A lot of your bug threads and suggestions are horribly bad. Please stop.

Holy shit you are an idiot.

Yea griefers will TOTALLY risk their fungi, CoF and RBB for a chance at that noobs Cracked Staff.

Currently they have 0 risk at all even if they somehow get outplayed or double teamed by some noobs. They just get coined and they don't give any fucks.

Put their pixels at risk, then maybe they will think twice about griefing new players on their twinked out toons.

Big Nirgon is attempting to make this server more classic. Let it happen red. Shit, if it happens I may even roll a toon on red. Cause that would finally be some legit PvP server.

[Nirgon]

Let's take the sperg down a notch and realize this is a killer for RMT buyers

Necros are weak here because of the resist system and Thrilla obviously isn't an idiot when it comes to EQ PvP.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's take the sperg down a notch and realize this is a killer for RMT buyers

Necros are weak here because of the resist system and Thrilla obviously isn't an idiot when it comes to EQ PvP.

No, necros are weak because they were weak on live, too. Resists have nothing to do with it. Everyone has cure pots and clickies, knows to ignore pets, and keeps the first two debuff slots open. Again the KEEP IT CLASSIC RESEARCH expert is talking out of his ass and knows nothing whatsoever.

Item loot is classic. Was on all 3 classic server.

There were four servers, not three. And it was only implemented briefly on three. It was removed from all three servers after Verant called it a mistake. And the fact that Verant adressed gameplay balance on a fucking pvp server shows you just how bad it was that not even they could ignore it.

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy shit you are an idiot.

Yea griefers will TOTALLY risk their fungi, CoF and RBB for a chance at that noobs Cracked Staff.

Currently they have 0 risk at all even if they somehow get outplayed or double teamed by some noobs. They just get coined and they don't give any fucks.

Put their pixels at risk, then maybe they will think twice about griefing new players on their twinked out toons.

Big Nirgon is attempting to make this server more classic. Let it happen red. Shit, if it happens I may even roll a toon on red. Cause that would finally be some legit PvP server.

Oh sweet, someone that doesn't play the server is talking about pvp. Hey, how many times does a deleveled rogue with an epic and an assortment of No Drop gear die to guys in Unrest and Mistmoore?

The answer is a big fucking 0. They don't fair fight, they don't wait around for pvp, they just kill people with low hp, less gear, busy fighting mobs, then they log off.

You're never going to get their fungi (if they are even wearing one, it's pretty pointless). Item Loot just lets them steal people's breast plates, robes, and if they duo, they'll be able to loot other people's main weapons using disarm and blind.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The answer is a big fucking 0. They don't fair fight, they don't wait around for pvp, they just kill people with low hp, less gear, busy fighting mobs, then they log off.

I disagree here.

First, the fungi is worth 100k, the stuff they would get off of noobs is like 100p. So they have to win 99.9% of the time to be profitable.

Second, if I were a noob I would work together with some friends and have them at the login screen ready to come save me.

(that said I think item loot is a bad idea)

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please stop.

naw.