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Old 02-25-2014, 04:36 PM
Chahir Chahir is offline
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I am playing a Troll Sk, gf playing HEF cleric. I get -68, she gets +-0.

Can someone please explain to me roughly how these three scenarios will pan out?

We kill a mob thats higher than us both. (me 13, she 10, mob 15)

We kill a mob that is between our level. (me 13, she 10, mob 12)

We kill a mob thats below both of our levels. (me 13, she 10, mob 8)

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Old 02-25-2014, 04:42 PM
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Depends on how efficiently you can kill the mob and the downtime between them. Killing a higher level mob with the same amount of downtime of a lower level mob would be the way to go.

It all really comes down to keeping your downtime at a bare minimum and constant reliable kills/pulls going.
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:08 PM
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The exp from every kill is reduced 68% than split between you and the cleric. You'll level at the same rate so long as every kill is grouped. The most efficient way to level would be to find a high dps class like a rogue or enchanter w/ charmed pet and have them DPS the mobs you're tanking. The ideal exp is as Lyrith mentioned. Minimum downtime, constant kills.
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:17 PM
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The exp from every kill is reduced 68% than split between you and the cleric.
This is absolutely incorrect.

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You'll level at the same rate so long as every kill is grouped.
This is correct.

For the skinny on xp penalties, please read the my post which is linked within the FAQ stickied at the top of the Library forum.

Link to FAQ... http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1002

Link to my post... http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=24405
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:19 PM
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This is absolutely incorrect.
That sounds like a damn nightmare. More than three times the kills to exp just because one character in the group is a troll SK? no one would group these, ever.
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Old 02-25-2014, 06:00 PM
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This is absolutely incorrect.

This is correct.

For the skinny on xp penalties, please read the my post which is linked within the FAQ stickied at the top of the Library forum.

Link to FAQ... http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1002

Link to my post... http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=24405
Very informative FAQ, thank you!

So I should stuff the cleric full of CB belts so she becomes approx 1 level higher than me to be sure?
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Old 02-27-2014, 04:49 AM
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This is absolutely incorrect.
It is mathematically correct. Bigger xp bar = drains more xp on the split. That technically means an even con troll SK will take more of the share than a hobbit warrior, so you will take less xp.
Every mob will give the same xp, hybrid penalty only means the character with xp malus will take more so mathematically "sharing" his malus.

Like drktmplr12 said, you generally don't see any difference when your tank is a troll SK or a hobbit warrior (maybe a 10 levels higher SK makes you notice) but last time in MM I had a good group of Ranger/Bard/Ikky Monk/Troll SK and I as cleric and it REALLY was slower.
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:46 AM
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That is absolutely incorrect
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It is mathematically correct.
You failed at understanding what I declared to be incorrect. iecompte said that a troll sk caused his party to get 68% less xp for each kill before the xp is split. That is a completely inaccurate statement. Each players' share is based on their total xp, nothing else. The amount of xp the mob gives doesn't ever change based on the class or race of the pc killing it.
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:22 PM
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As far as I can tell, the exp is equal to as if the highest level character solo'd it (because if it's green to one person, no one gets exp) and then that experience is split amongst the group. The racial penalty is divided throughout the group so you would get 34% less exp and she would get 34% less exp. Then the group exp bonus (2% per member) would increase it.

So, if you (highest level) kill a mob that yields (figuratively) 100 xp points if you solo'd it, you would both receive (100/n) * (1-%penalty/n) * 1.02.

n = people in group.

Might be wrong, though.
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Old 02-25-2014, 05:28 PM
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...stuff...Might be wrong, though.
No need to speculate. Read my post in the FAQ
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