lvl 60 barb+barbarian Spiritist Hammer+Epic vs just plain epic

[spoils]

So a buddy of mine and I were in debate about ogre shammies vs barb shammies...

we know the obvious pros of an ogre shammy,

But I was wondering about a barb with epic click, torpor, BSH...

Now going one mob at a time with the BSH could potentially be a pretty cool combo no? Even against casters?

Or is ogre shammy just so damn OP that stun immunity and just epic rotting 4+ mobs at a time while rooting just that much more efficient? Seems kinda boring to me...

Methinks it'd be more fun and nearly as efficient to tank/spank as a barb opening with root, slow, epic click, then tank/spank with BSH

or should i stfu and just concede to ogre dominance?


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[Tecmos Deception]

This is kinda an apples vs. oranges (and silly) thread, imo.

Why would a level 60 shaman be root-rotting 4+ mobs at once? What does stun immunity have to do with whether root-rotting is more efficient than swinging a BSH? If you think meleeing would be fun, then just go melee something.

The hammer is nice I'm sure for times when you can use it. Like, say you're soloing some tough named mob so it is hard to keep him rooted/he casts/he summons. Sure, it's nice to be able to swing your hammer inbetween epic clicks/jbb clicks/spellcasts for some extra free damage. But I really doubt that it is nice enough in and of itself that you would be opting to melee stuff that you don't have to be in melee with, or that it will make or break you compared to being one of the other shaman races.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why would you be epic rotting 4+ mobs at once when you're already 60 though?

dat seafury

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[spoils]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

dat seafury

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dat krupz farmin yo!

[pasi]

If you're talking about absolute topend, Smoldering Cudgel (VP) should outdps BSH in melee combat while also giving better stats and allowing for a shield.

[koros]

Originally Posted by pasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're talking about absolute topend, Smoldering Cudgel (VP) should outdps BSH in melee combat while also giving better stats and allowing for a shield.

Not quite, but that's because the Barb hammer procs at 164% of the SC.

[spoils]

good point...perhaps it's cause i'm coming from a farming perspective and perhaps my bud is talking from a lvling perspective.

Let's say for argumentsake for farming...which would be faster to kill? I'm assuming that as the shammy i'm not trying to slaughter many mobs, but just keep a camp clear.

[spoils]

mmm that would be sweet to have but i guess i'm talking about the average shaman that can gear themselves without poopsocking for thousands of hours...

[fishingme]

I'd reroll troll or ogre, ogre because they look kind of cool at 60 with full gear, troll for the regen. Can't say I ever would like to a shaman iksar, they just arent "beefy" looking enough to me. However Iksar necro is fanfrakkingtastic.

[koros]

Interesting Pasi, now I'm curious why they added the proc mod to BSH at all. The claim about the bonethunder staff I heard was that the damage got reduced 4x so they raised proc rates to compensate. That is not the case with winter's roar however.