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Old 09-16-2013, 10:57 AM
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Default What stats should a fresh Enchanter aim for when gearing?

I can't resist the urge to roll an Enchanter anymore, so I'm gonna do it. The question I have though, is should I prioritize CHA or INT on gear? From what I have seen, CHA items are decently cheap (which is good, because I have 200p to my name), with things like Cats Eye Bracelets and A Crude Stein packing good CHA while being very cheap. I'm guessing that there is some sort of sweet spot in regards to the positive benefits of CHA on charm/mez, and beyond that I should aim for INT gear? Not like I can go all out with purchases, but I just want to have an idea of what I should fill my slots with. Thanks. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:26 PM
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CHA if you want to charm (get reliable at 190+, pretty dodgy between 170-190, I woudn't rely on it below this). It will also be cheaper to buy cha stuff than int.
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Old 09-16-2013, 01:56 PM
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I always just tried to get as much charisma as I could. You can get charisma in most slots (earrings, rings, wrists, neck, face, offhand all being especially good+cheap slots for it). Then once you are higher level and your charisma buffs start putting you up over the charisma cap of 255, you can swap in hp or int or ac or whatever gear where it is most efficient.
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:17 PM
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Charisma.

INT really doesn't mean much outside of AE groups where you can swap to a full INT set. Charisma allows you to gear more toward HP.

Furthermore, a high naked charisma is good for CR'n yourself with pacify so also dump your starting points into charisma!
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Old 09-16-2013, 02:44 PM
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I definitely regret going full int with Loraen (read too many stupid guides). Intelligence helps a bit when you are very low level but once you hit L20-30 or so your mana pool won't matter as much, and at 51 with taps its not important at all.

So yeah, go full cha on startup and try and get it to 200 asap.
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:28 PM
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Awesome, thanks guys! Good to see Tecmo's respond, as his stream is what pushed me over the edge and made it impossible for me to continue my Monk. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-16-2013, 05:36 PM
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Awesome, thanks guys! Good to see Tecmo's respond, as his stream is what pushed me over the edge and made it impossible for me to continue my Monk. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Lol. Loraen and the solo challenge convinced me to make a chanter, now I'm just passing along the fun! You should bug pasi to stream if you want to see someone REALLY push the envelope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-16-2013, 06:26 PM
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Lol. Loraen and the solo challenge convinced me to make a chanter, now I'm just passing along the fun! You should bug pasi to stream if you want to see someone REALLY push the envelope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
That sounds awesome. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I never really realized it before, but it seems pretty obvious to me now that Enchanters have the highest skill cap in the game. That more than anything is the real appeal to me, and no so much OMGIWANTTOBERICHLIKETECMO'S!!!1
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Old 09-17-2013, 12:14 AM
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That sounds awesome. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I never really realized it before, but it seems pretty obvious to me now that Enchanters have the highest skill cap in the game. That more than anything is the real appeal to me, and no so much OMGIWANTTOBERICHLIKETECMO'S!!!1
I don't claim to be an expert on enchanters or bards, but I feel like bards would definitely be contenders for that title as well.
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Old 09-18-2013, 03:15 PM
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It's a fairly common mob with an extremely rare droprate that gets KS'd by other players and half the other mobs roaming around. You could probably EXP there starting at 16ish through to 22-24 for your best chance of seeing one.

Also, apparently I'm the only enc on the server who *almost* disregards CHA. Buffed, my CHA is around 170ish I think, been leveling my SK and haven't been on my enc to check. However, I am a firm believer that levels over the mob + tash >>>>>>>> CHA for charming mobs. CHA, at least how I remembered from live, affected the initial resist check (Your target resisted the Boltan's Agacerie spell.) but did nothing for duration once it actually landed. Classic may be different, but I can't say my lower CHA has ever gotten me killed from some mob not staying charmed. If charm kept breaking after a minute, then the mob was a level or two below me and never meant to be charmed long-term to begin with. I geared for HP and INT so I could charm for longer periods of time, have a bigger mana (and HP through rune) threshold if and when shit went down, and survive the breaks when they did happen.

This actually reminds me of a something I saw in LOIO leveling my SK.. some twinked enchanter was charm kiting in front of the sarnak fort while I was pulling/fear kiting the charbone and icebone skeletons roaming about. She pulls this warbone skeleton (a monk.. heh. They are about 19ish, she was 24), charms it, hastes it for some reason, and then charm breaks and she gets absolutely mulched... I'm talking two rounds max, she didn't stand half a chance. I checked her gear after she ran back, for shits and giggles - everything was CHA. No HP rings, nothing that stood out as mana gear, she was just geared to the teeth for CHA... and all I could think of was all the good that ended up doing her.

YMMV, my enc is only 54, but for leveling purposes that's what I've followed. My enc hasn't died since 37 when I've solo'd.
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