Miscellaneous: Reclaim Energy on Mage Focus Items

[Gorroth]

The effect should be able to be triggered from the inventory, thus used by classes who do not have access to the "Reclaim Energy" spell. This is currently not the case, as it gives a "your class/race/deity cannot use the item" message.


Shamans using it. Clickable from inventory slot.

Great item for shamans.
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Since shamans never get a reclaim energy spell, the reclaim energy right-clickable on the broom (or any of the mage focus items) is very nice. I keep my broom with me whenever I think I'll be using my pet.
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mewzillion, Posted: Jul 24 2001 3:21am, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] yep u can use it form inventory slot

People confirming that the effect can be used by other classes.

Can the reclaim energy effect be used by non-mages?
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In looking for a reclaim energy item for my nec I've run across tons of reclaim energy items for mages, but only velious bracers for necs.

Will this shovel, right-clicked in the inventory of a nec, succeed? I know it works from inventory of a mage, and I know some items (ie, Circlet of Shadow, Words of Darkness) that work from inventory are still class restricted.

Thanks in advance!
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RE: Can the reclaim energy effect be used by non-mages?
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Yes, the reclaim efect can be used by non-mages. I know many shaman who have/use one of the foci to reclaim their dogs.
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Another source stating that it can be used by shamans.

Shovel of Ponz (general inventory)

Yes, I know it's a magician only item, but Shaman can use the effect of reclaim energy from a general inventory slot. Reclaim Energy kills your pet, but gives you mana (depending on the amount of HP your pet has). Awesome for emergencies when you need an extra 200 mana, or for when you need to zone and your pet would die anyway.

Fix please.

[Swishahouse]

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[Ropethunder]

According to alakazam it's "Any Slot/Can Equip". Maybe this was changed at some point.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=64

[Qaedain]

You provided evidence from 2001, which is post-Kunark. You need proof that your claims are actually classic.

[feanan]

i highly doubt that they would have added the ability for other classes to use a mage focus items later on. if anything, they would have fixed/removed it

[Gorroth]

Guh, not this argument again. Each time someone wants to be a cockblock about a minor thing, they fling around that pretext.

Content is tweaked for the Classic Era, not just "Classic" aka vanilla Everquest without any expansion. If the devs really want to go on a case-by-case basis and disable/re-enable stuff when they release expansions, that's their right. Other than that, things that were available during the EQ trilogy will be made available regardless of when *exactly* they were implemented (e.g. Wu's armor, etc.).

Now about this particular topic, it's a small secret of the trade, something that wasn't very well documented. It took a bit of time for the players to find out about it and a little more to post about it, hence why the posts are Kunark-Velious era and not "true classic".

For me, if people *really* want to make us believe that Verant went around and changed this item to be clickable by everyone from the inventory when it was only usable from the very start by mages only, they're either being buttholes or delusional about MMO development in general.

For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everquest
# The Ruins of Kunark (March 2000)
# The Scars of Velious (December 2000)
# The Shadows of Luclin (December 2001)

So yeah, the posts are indeed "Classic^TM" in my book.

[Phallax]

Originally Posted by Gorroth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guh, not this argument again. Each time someone wants to be a cockblock about a minor thing, they fling around that pretext.

Content is tweaked for the Classic Era, not just "Classic" aka vanilla Everquest without any expansion. If the devs really want to go on a case-by-case basis and disable/re-enable stuff when they release expansions, that's their right. Other than that, things that were available during the EQ trilogy will be made available regardless of when *exactly* they were implemented (e.g. Wu's armor, etc.).

Now about this particular topic, it's a small secret of the trade, something that wasn't very well documented. It took a bit of time for the players to find out about it and a little more to post about it, hence why the posts are Kunark-Velious era and not "true classic".

For me, if people *really* want to make us believe that Verant went around and changed this item to be clickable by everyone from the inventory when it was only usable from the very start by mages only, they're either being buttholes or delusional about MMO development in general.

For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everquest
# The Ruins of Kunark (March 2000)
# The Scars of Velious (December 2000)
# The Shadows of Luclin (December 2001)

So yeah, the posts are indeed "Classic^TM" in my book.

If this argument were the case wed have the sub-50 spells that came with Kunark already available to us as well, but we dont because they are going to release them when they were actually released.

So your argument holds no truth or ground.

As to the OP. Thatd be nice if they made it that way, Id actually get one! ANd eat my pets till I got a dark blue, and iIm sure Zilo could abuse his wolf procs for mana as well.

[Jify]

Originally Posted by Phallax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im sure Zilo could abuse his wolf procs for mana as well.

While I do agree that Zilo is an abuser, I don't believe this would work. Reclaim energy should be based on the HP of the pet that is being reclaimed. (I can't seem to find anything to back this, but I did note that the Improved Reclaim Energy AA increases mana returned from 75% to 95% of the cost. Since Zilo's pet "cost" zero, he'd still get no return)

Since Zilo's doggy only has 1 hp, he'd get a very poor return for reclaiming it.

This however, may not be enough to stop Zilo. He's been known to slaughter dogs, kittens, and small children alike for the thrill alone.

Also, to support your agruement, the below was taken from a classic "shaman" FoH website. (http://www.notacult.com/guide_trollshaman.html)

Shovel of Ponz (general inventory)

Yes, I know it's a magician only item, but Shaman can use the effect of reclaim energy from a general inventory slot. Reclaim Energy kills your pet, but gives you mana (depending on the amount of HP your pet has). Awesome for emergencies when you need an extra 200 mana, or for when you need to zone and your pet would die anyway.

[dali_lb]

Originally Posted by Jify [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reclaim energy should be based on the HP of the pet that is being reclaimed.

You got it some wrong, some right.

The word here is "Should" be based on the HP of the pet, but not the"number" 1, 50, 125, 375 hp or whatever. It should be based on the %HP the pet has left when you reclaim it. if pet is at 33% hp you will only get 25% mana return

This is not the case on P99 However. Try reclaiming a pet a 1% or 100%.
you get the exact same amount back - 75% mana of pet summoning.

Hense it can be vastly abused on P99, unless they change how reclaim works.

[Haynar]

Originally Posted by dali_lb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You got it some wrong, some right.

The word here is "Should" be based on the HP of the pet, but not the"number" 1, 50, 125, 375 hp or whatever. It should be based on the %HP the pet has left when you reclaim it. if pet is at 33% hp you will only get 25% mana return

This is not the case on P99 However. Try reclaiming a pet a 1% or 100%.
you get the exact same amount back - 75% mana of pet summoning.

Hense it can be vastly abused on P99, unless they change how reclaim works.

Do we have anything that says what % of hitpoints it should be? The current way it is, it will return level of pet * 4 mana. The only numbers I have seen anyone say are 10% of HPs. I am still looking at how good those numbers are. I am out of town at the moment, so my access is limited. Just any numbers on how much mana was returned from an earth pet, should give me the info what I need to extapolate the rest. If I remember right, the 49 earth pet takes 200 base mana to cast. How much mana should a full HP earth pet return?

Haynar