<Castle> nukes rules that support fair rogue book races on Green, becomes enemy #1???

[Evaquestinman]

Circa 7 weeks into epics on P99 Green, not all players have their epics. In particular the rogue epic (which should be one of the easiest) isn't currently equipped by every level 46 rogue on the server. Despite Kingdom & Seal Team having "too many rogue epics", those deadly daggers are apparently rare and only held by a handful of "causal players." The situation is dire.

The Green UN and volunteer GMs had created rules to support fair races for the PoH book spawn. These rules were revised a couple times but essentially when someone identifies a book is up, everyone who wants to participate has to adhere to requirements such as zoning out to WC, waiting for a certain /rand roll, and only porting up after the proper roll took place.

In an attempt to gain advantage for their "casual raid force," Castle's lead Potato decided to withdraw his guild from the race rules. The claimed intention was to provide Castle's player base with an advantage as other guilds would still be required to adhere to the race rules but Castle would not. This withdrawal was met with a lot of emotions across the server.

Most decried this as foul behavior by filthy casuals wanting free epics handed to them. Another "causal" P99 Green guild, Dynasty, quickly came to Castle's defense and withdrew from the rules. Dynasty Officer Maavy stated his guild cannot possibly "camp these books forever" and "none of our rogues, even ones that got their epics, liked" the race. Yet while playing the victim, Maavy failed to disclose that his guild has already obtained multiple book spawns and would have more had they not botched the epic turn-in for a rogue guild officer costing them a book. Dynasty leadership then attempted to guilt trip another rogue guild member into MQing their rightfully won book to the rogue officer who messed up their turn-in. This behavior isn't new to the "casual family oriented DKP guild" as they also lost a shaman epic when guild officers instructed a paladin to loot a child's tear in PoF not understanding true spirit faction requirements.

Please help me understand who the bad guys are here: Is it Seal Team and Kingdom because they have won too many times and are depriving Castle and Dynasty types their rightful epics? Or are the casual players the problem because they think everyone should get handed a trophy when they just need to "get good" ? Or is the staff's fault because this 22 year old game is just too hard and they should be making it easier for the player base either by implementing additional rules or just handing people loot??

I come to the wise RnF community for answers and hope you will help me see the light...

[myrddraal]

Bvmmy strikes again?! Book not up?!

[starkind]

Op took 478 words 2,733 characters to basically make a poll that should say all of the above.

Make your own cooler guild name OP.

[Fammaden]

Roll for loot rights at WC spire on book spawn. Done.

Kingdom and ST have a bevy of epic rogues now they can afford to miss some books. This shit is going to keep spawning every ten hours until they merge the server and Velious is barely over a month away, its time to chill out on the book meta.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Fammaden [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Roll for loot rights at WC spire on book spawn. Done.

/agree ! I proposed this and the UN was horrified. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by CancerMage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But i do appluad potatus for finally getting his nuts.

Hey, thanks. I am pretty nuts. Also, we've managed to win two books so far, against all odds - one of them since the agreement ended. We'll get there.

Originally Posted by Lightbringer55 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So a guild that had no books drops from an agreement that clearly did nothing for them. They probably needed, what, 2 books or something? But then every other guild in the agreement decided that's not fair and withdrew from the agreement, an agreement they all claimed was amazing and fair for everyone, without making any attempt to revise it in the 72 hour notice period. And now those same raiding guilds are threatening the causal guilds further saying this will further reduce their odds? How do you go below 0 books? Lol. The casual guilds had nothing to lose. In fact, they're probably laughing at the non-casual guilds because of their knee jerk withdrawal which will lead them all to pull the usual BS and try to petition each other fighting tooth and nail for more books.

Meanwhile half the UN comments are from Kingdom talking about GM mental health as if they're just looking out for the staff. If I was a GM I'd ban Kingdom first for trying to speak for the GMs, and second for trying to use their 'concern' for the mental health of the GMs to conceal their attempts to manipulate and twist the situation to try and shame a guild for pulling out of a player agreement.

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[Penish]

Looks like a wall full of wahh, nice work.

[starkind]

on vox u can get to lvl 65 without anyone interfering with u at aall

or maybe try wow

[RecondoJoe]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

on vox u can get to lvl 65 without anyone interfering with u at aall

Even on high population servers they don't have these problems. This game was never designed for other players to tell you what you can and cannot do. This game was meant to be competitive, and these player-made agreements literally do nothing but protect those who are already at the top and enslave those who are not.

I've played on P99 Green enough to know that a guild on an American time schedule can only be dominant because of agreements preventing players from jacking their shit while they sleep.

[Grumph]

Needed a few more paragraph spaces.

But very well said!

[Toxigen]

book definitely not up