Rules clarification

[Metallikus]

taken from Rogaen on the raid play nice policy thread:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=14667

"Q: Can we camp raid mobs?
A: If you choose to lay a claim to an unspawned raid npc, your raid must be at the npc's spawn point with sufficient force. (within aggro range of the npc when it spawns, with at least a 15 member raid party). e.g. (inside Nagafen's Lair) This is the ONLY way claims of unspawned raid targets will be respected."

Two raid guilds are in Trakanon's lair within agro range. TMO frapsed and screenshotted their raid force getting to agro range of a Trakanon spawn in Trakanon's lair. Zeelot sent a tell to the BDA raid leader and said they have proof that their raid force was on the spawn point with 15 and that BDa should leave because the mob is theirs. If BDA is forced out with this rules lawyering, why would TMO not have to keep their raid force (or 15) within agro range? As soon as BDA left the zone, TMO backs off everyone from agro range.

What is the point of this rule? Guilds don't want to stand on Trakanon's spawn point for 9 hours. Why should TMO be able to walk up with 15 people and have the opposing raid force removed if they aren't willing to keep their raid force there? This is poor form rules lawyering.

BTW, Amelinda was contacted during this action on irc and refused to comment.

[arsenalpow]

well to be more exact BDA had 40+ clearing juggs and we were camped at Jumpy, TMO walked 15 to Trak's spawn point and claimed him. Rules lawyering at it's finest.

Amelinda was busy, i don't think she declined to comment.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA had 40+ at Jumpy, TMO walked 15 to Trak's spawn point and claimed him.

Moral of the story, if you're going to Poopsock, do it at the right spot.

[Jarnauga]

[Tue Aug 02 18:12:12 2011] Kinsawt says, 'Yea, our fraps does an entire circle, they were OOR'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:12 2011] Zeelot says, '50 range from spawn'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:19 2011] Zeelot says, 'I'm looking at a first person spawn point of view that amelinda sent me'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:21 2011] Zeelot says, 'of traks spawn'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:24 2011] Zeelot says, 'and we were fuckin close'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:28 2011] Kinsawt says, 'You were out of range'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:34 2011] Kinsawt says, 'Maybe close, but out of range'

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Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tue Aug 02 18:12:12 2011] Kinsawt says, 'Yea, our fraps does an entire circle, they were OOR'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:12 2011] Zeelot says, '50 range from spawn'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:19 2011] Zeelot says, 'I'm looking at a first person spawn point of view that amelinda sent me'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:21 2011] Zeelot says, 'of traks spawn'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:24 2011] Zeelot says, 'and we were fuckin close'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:28 2011] Kinsawt says, 'You were out of range'
[Tue Aug 02 18:12:34 2011] Kinsawt says, 'Maybe close, but out of range'

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So this dumdum knows how this all goes down. Least one of you dumdums can remember server history.

[Jarnauga]

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Thanks Eccezan for the pic

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Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zeelott confirmed full of shit.

You do know that IB won that right? We were ruled to be just outside of his aggro range (which was closer than tola's spawn btw). We were in between tola and trak lair from what I remember.

Also, TMO would rather rush engage than sock, but having 40 sock just outside Trak's room to kill juggs is not rush engaging, it's plain old poopsocking. You guys tried to play it safe to stay outside of insta engaging trak when he spawned and TMO put 15 on spawn to claim it and deny your sock. Aka, you got outsocked bro.

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Moral of the story, if you're going to Poopsock, do it at the right spot.

[Asher]

[QUOTE=Autotune;679185]

Also, TMO would rather rush engage than sock, but having 40 sock just outside Trak's room to kill juggs is not rush engaging, it's plain old poopsocking. QUOTE]

Ah so this is the competition you were speaking of. A guilds ability to have people camp out at a mobs spawn point, waiting on call to log them in.

You guys are l33t.

Asher

[Asher]

[QUOTE=Asher;679221]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, TMO would rather rush engage than sock, but having 40 sock just outside Trak's room to kill juggs is not rush engaging, it's plain old poopsocking. QUOTE]

Ah so this is the competition you were speaking of. A guilds ability to have people camp out at a mobs spawn point, waiting on call to log them in.

You guys are l33t.

Asher

I fail at quoting.

Seriously though, that is what EQ is all about. Only the l33t can camp out at a mobs spawn point and then be on call for the spawn.

Asher

[apio]

Just leave, and let TMO rot on a dead server. Don´t let them troll you into staying. You´re playing right into the retard´s hands. Only once Blue 99 has turned into a 2nd Red99, they will be happy.