Sham deity

[Bigsham]

Does deity matter for sham? Going to start tonight was going to do troll for regen but thinking ogre for meatyness or spell interruption. Troll better?

Either way both are evil does deity matter for any gear later dont want to screw up
-Bigsham

[DMN]

You posed two questions, one about religion and one about race. Inny is the only important shaman deity since it gives you access to some very nice clickies. only trolls can pick this one.

Troll is a lot better for vanilla, kunar+is when it becomes quite debatable. A lot of people, most prominently those who prolly never even played a shaman in the first place think the bash stun immunity is super important. It's not. having something that helps .0001% of your playtime instead something helping 99.99% is just a bad idea. if you're dying kunark and beyond it will most likely because your slows keep getting resisted, regardless if ogre or troll. But if slow lands both ogres and troll will be able to easily cast spells between bashes.

This should have prolly been posted in the priests forum, though.

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You posed two questions, one about religion and one about race. Inny is the only important shaman deity since it gives you access to some very nice clickies. only trolls can pick this one.

Troll is a lot better for vanilla, kunar+is when it becomes quite debatable. A lot of people, most prominently those who prolly never even played a shaman in the first place think the bash stun immunity is super important. It's not. having something that helps .0001% of your playtime instead something helping 99.99% is just a bad idea. if you're dying kunark and beyond it will most likely because your slows keep getting resisted, regardless if ogre or troll. But if slow lands both ogres and troll will be able to easily cast spells between bashes.

This should have prolly been posted in the priests forum, though.

FSI edges out regen once the Shaman gets Torpor

99.99999% of shamans who ever play on these servers will never see that spell

[DMN]

Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FSI edges out regen once the Shaman gets Torpor

99.99999% of shamans who ever play on these servers will never see that spell

Perhaps, but then you must also consider snare, especially after it starts stacking with root. i don't see ogres ever making up the difference.

[Ashenden]

Going to start tonight was going to do troll for regen but thinking ogre for meatyness or spell interruption. Troll better?

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[Swish]

Both are good choices, just don't go barb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Siege]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both are good choices, just don't go barb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Barbarian is worth it if you don't want to dick around with Overthere faction issues, you don't want to play Iksar, and you want to win Fashionquest.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Siege [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Barbarian is worth it if you don't want to dick around with Overthere faction issues, you don't want to play Iksar, and you want to win Fashionquest.

Don't forget the lowest XP penalty. Everyone acts like it's no big deal, but to me saving 10% (if not 15%) of the time it takes another race to go from 1 to 60 is ... well it's a lot of time!

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't forget the lowest XP penalty. Everyone acts like it's no big deal, but to me saving 10% (if not 15%) of the time it takes another race to go from 1 to 60 is ... well it's a lot of time!

You're overselling the lower exp requirement, imo. The extra exp a troll (or iksar) needs is largely/entirely offset by their significantly better regen giving you faster recoveries (and slightly more strength in a fight itself). FSI is a small thing while leveling, but I could see it saving a death or two over the course of many hundreds of hours of exping. And then at 60, the exp doesn't matter at all, but the non-barb races still have their advantages.

I could see being a barb for appearances sake, or because you don't like being evil, but the exp bonus shouldn't really be a part of the equation imo.

[silo32]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're overselling the lower exp requirement, imo. The extra exp a troll (or iksar) needs is largely/entirely offset by their significantly better regen giving you faster recoveries (and slightly more strength in a fight itself). FSI is a small thing while leveling, but I could see it saving a death or two over the course of many hundreds of hours of exping. And then at 60, the exp doesn't matter at all, but the non-barb races still have their advantages.

I could see being a barb for appearances sake, or because you don't like being evil, but the exp bonus shouldn't really be a part of the equation imo.

I played an iksar sk to 60

hoo boy that was not easy task, did most of 50+ solo due to groups not wanting to share the penalty...