NPC Spawn Issue: Jacker in neriak foreign quarters

[Xend]

On live he had 2376hp, used to kill him and a few other neriak mobs for exp.

http://www.tessmage.com/AllaClone/npc.php?id=40094

On p1999 he has twice as much hp

[nilbog]

ShowEQ spawnlog from summer 2000 shows he has:

Jacker Neriak - Foreign Quarter 44 44 5266 5266 Ogre Shadow Knight (-260,-236)

5266 hp.

The link you posted is from an emulator and can not be considered accurate.

[Silo69]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ShowEQ spawnlog from summer 2000 shows he has:



5266 hp.

The link you posted is from an emulator and can not be considered accurate.

i know why you nerfed pathing in neriaka but why did you remove the loot from all the pvp arena mobs including jacker?

hp are about accurate 5k jacker, 6k karn, 7.5k mrak, 8.5k uglan, cappe 9k svu 9k

but 0 loot... at least add a little something, can use ZAM alla to figure out there loot tables im sure. You removed everything they drop nothing.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Silo69 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i know why you nerfed pathing in neriaka but why did you remove the loot from all the pvp arena mobs including jacker?

hp are about accurate 5k jacker, 6k karn, 7.5k mrak, 8.5k uglan, cappe 9k svu 9k

but 0 loot... at least add a little something, can use ZAM alla to figure out there loot tables im sure. You removed everything they drop nothing.

I don't think anything was removed. It was likely never added. We don't have fully implemented zones that we can remove pathing and loot from... best case scenario it's a partially made zone that was stock eqemulator data when the project was started. Since that time, everything we make is by hand and it takes time and bug reports. Kunark onward, zones were tediously created with better tools and methodology. By and large, most bugs still come from prekunark zones.

I'll look into this when I get time.

[Silo69]

while i have your attention, in the past p99 staff didnt accept zam info as fact, it seems lately you are accepting zam snipits from other players experience as evidence to nerf fix change things...

i can zam neriaka loot from those mobs if you need to quick fix

[Bamzal Sherbet]

wtf are u talking about silo? quit blowing smoke out your ass.

Nilbog clearly cites his reference from ShowEQ logs produced in the year 2000.

If anyone is posting relevant ZAM info, then its probably a link through the waybackwhen machine, meaning it also came from 2000.

[Silo69]

Originally Posted by Bamzal Sherbet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wtf are u talking about silo? quit blowing smoke out your ass.

Nilbog clearly cites his reference from ShowEQ logs produced in the year 2000.

If anyone is posting relevant ZAM info, then its probably a link through the waybackwhen machine, meaning it also came from 2000.

if gm's developers accept wayback machine links as evidence to change things here on classic

then i have much to post, when eq p99 first came out zam was not accepted as a reliable source, its just another players opinion at the time nothing was fact just an opinion

but if developers here will take that into consideration as fact, then shits about to change friend

[Silo69]

Originally Posted by Bamzal Sherbet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wtf are u talking about silo? quit blowing smoke out your ass.

Nilbog clearly cites his reference from ShowEQ logs produced in the year 2000.

If anyone is posting relevant ZAM info, then its probably a link through the waybackwhen machine, meaning it also came from 2000.

if gm's developers accept wayback machine links as evidence to change things here on classic

then i have much to post, when eq p99 first came out zam was not accepted as a reliable source, its just another players opinion at the time nothing was fact just an opinion

but if developers here will take that into consideration as fact, then shits about to change friend, and were no longer in 2000 in according to the timeline, its 2013 eq p99 came out 2009?

[Bamzal Sherbet]

riiight... because in 1999 someone probably doctored a screenshot of an item, and got his buddies to comment, just to troll people trying to recreate the game ten years in the future.

[Silo69]

i have similar info that shows that -cha helps necros fear longer... from people of that era when we all know that is not the case

as well as people posting that +cha helps necros charm last longer when we know as fact that developers here have adjusted how necro charm works

there is so much dis information on zam that is all 2nd hand "im sure this works" that we can conclude is false info

if a dev here takes zam wayback info as fact, a shit storm is about to brew, brew