Miscellaneous: Kerran Faction

[Jomar]

Killing Kerrans in Kerra Ridge drops factions with Kerra, but doing quests with the Kerrans (Completed Rat Teeth, Luck of Alix, First and Second Test of Kejaar) raises faction with KerraIsle.

According to Alla, KerraIsle faction is supposed to have at least these NPC's on it:
* a kejekan awrat
* a kerra lion
* a kerra puma
* a kerran 'amir
* a kerran ispusar
* a kerran pasdar
* dozing ghulam
* Falthrik Lothoro
* kerran tiger spahi
* kerran tseq
* Khonza Mitty of Kerra

But when I killed a couple of those (Falthrik and a tseq), they dropped Kerra faction and had the same /con as the other NPCs on the island. Additionally, it lists killing Erudite Sentinels as a way to increase KerraIsle faction, but upon killing the NPCs, Kerra faction is raised instead.

I get the feeling that "Kerra" is the Kerran faction re-created by the EQEmu devs, while "KerraIsle" faction was the Kerran faction on live either pre- or post-zone removal.

Anyway, is there a way for you developers to check to make sure these two factions shouldn't actually be the same thing? While I know in the big picture no one probably cares about their Kerran faction, it'd be nice if doing their quests there on P1999 boosted faction with them, instead of some (possibly) non-existent faction. Otherwise you're relegated to basically killing guards to boost faction with Kerra.

Gracias amigos.

[nilbog]

This page actually supports that there are two different factions. For killing npcs, it will lower Kerra. The npcs should be on 'Kerra' faction. Completing the quests raise or lower "KerraIsle". Admittedly I didn't do a lot of research on this, and I'm willing to fix it with more evidence.

Your faction standing with KerraIsle got better
You gain experience!!
You receive 6 gold from Shazda Asad.

You have slain Malik Zaren!

Your faction standing with HighCouncilofErudin got worse.
Your faction standing with HighGuardofErudin got worse.
Your faction standing with Heretics got better.
Your faction standing with RingofScale got better.
Your faction standing with Kerra got better.

http://www.tokyo2001.com/game/eq/que...kerramenu.html

[guineapig]

Kerra faction does not seem to exist anymore on Allakhazam, only Kerra Isle.

Seems like maybe the name was switched at some point or the two merged into one but I'm finding nothing about the 2 factions ever existing independent of each other.

[guineapig]

I think I found where the change was made:

Kerra Ridge:

Kerra Ridge has been completely revamped. The target level-range for the zone has been slightly increased. In addition, many new quests have been added to the zone. The faction for Kerrans has been changed so that those who killed them indiscriminately before today's update can take part. Be warned that the Kerrans still do not like everyone.

This was taken from the April 10th patch which was right before Kunark was released. What they most likely did was change the faction of all Kerrans to the new name, thereby making the previous faction name obsolete. It doesn't straight up say this in the patch notes but it makes perfect sense.

[Eros]

I killed cats on the island while I was indifferent to avoid having to clear the way. I would do the rat teeth quest(I also eventually did others, almost all of them except for the Eruditehide Tunic and Rough Shoulderpads) mentioned earlier in the thread to restore my faction. It did raise my faction.

As for the problem with two different factions. Back in the 2000 of December there is no record of "Kerra", I went three years ahead (2003) and still, no sign of it. The earliest sign of it was 2005.

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No kerra faction.

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The same faction but now called Kerra faction (no longer called Kerra Isle)

Either way, the quests in the zone did raise the factions with the same cats in the zone. Some were KoS to all (some tigers, fangtooth). It could have been called faction UberCats and still raise the faction they were on. Regardless of the name, whatever faction they are on, the quest boosts that faction.

[Sundawg]

Kerra Isle is the faction the cats in Kerraridge should be on post revamp that was mentioned above. The quests should also reward with this faction.

Kerra faction seems to be an artifact left behind and forgotten about. The Erud guards still should give a positive hit for this faction but I could not find any real NPC that was still on it.

If anyone knows of a NPC that should still be on Kerra faction post revamp, let me know.

Edit: Kerra Isle faction revamp is complete. Fixed, pending update.