Dealing with Caster mobs

[eqravenprince]

I am a level 48 Monk and anymore I simply avoid all casters while soloing unless they are a green con and if they just turned green can be problematic. Is it normal for Monks to have some Magic Resistance gear? Reason I ask is because I feel like I might be doing something wrong. I was unable to kill the light blue con Shaman that is the placeholder for Shin Lord in Upper Guk last night, even with full health and using mend. He hit me with 2 nukes and 2 dots and healed himself probably 7 times before I had to feign death. As I left the zone, I announed Shin Lord camp was open because I was unable to kill the damn Shaman. I got heckled quite a bit, my favorite comment was "He is special...", oh and some level 40 Mage said "I can kill him easily". So I'm just wondering if there is anything I can do besides more MR, better weapon, and adding haste.

I am not one of those twinked out Monks, I've earned everything I have, including knowledge of how to play a Monk since I never have played one until P99. I have mostly Wu's armor or something similar, Wu's Quivering Staff, some +55 hp rings. But no added MR. I would hate to go buy MR stuff and find out it really doesn't make a difference. I don't have much money as it is, only 2.5kpp saved up. Any advice would be appreciated.

[nebulus]

You should always carry some resist gear with you... also you can use low delay 1hb weapons to try to interupt caster mobs.

[Furniture]

Theres another thread around here somewhere saying that casters are supposedly too powerful since they are casting too many buffs/spells.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=75903

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to add that I don't remember caster npcs being utter rapetrains in classic, but I have no real evidence for it.

Part of the problem is that PC resists are just screwed. With 100+ CR I resist like 1/3 of spells from blue con goblin wizards at 27.

Also, the sign on the door says classic Everquest. If we are going to take away useful conveniences like the compass than for sure these ridiculous caster npcs need a solid whack from the nerf bat.

Originally Posted by dali_lb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Same as the thread he cross linked.

In classic, caster mobs did not have a full spellbook. Their casting abillity were limited often 20 and 30 lvl's under their actuall lvl.

That is the reason why they buff better, and also heal a bit better.
The only spells that somewhat followed the lvl's of caster NPC's was Healing spells like Complete Healing.

Correct level spells for NPC's was earliest fixed during Luclin. I don't have a link right now, but those familiar with searching the web for old patch messages should be able to find this, as it was a major update to the game lvl'ing wise when caster mobs actually started to be a pain to fight if you didn't have an arsenal of ways to interupt casting.

Mobs may be casting too much buffs on themselves with spells that they shouldnt otherwise be casting at their level until the patch in luclin. Also like quoted above their may be issues with resists

[Splorf22]

Here is Dramor fighting in Sol A at I think L26 or so. Resists varied of course with bard songs but I often tried to sing elemental/guardian rhythms. Probably on average 70MR/50CR/50FR/20PR/35DR. Its just ridiculous IMO, to the point where I often don't even try to sing resist songs and just spam mez in the hope of getting interrupts.

edit: I guess I didn't spend all of my time in SolA, looks like a bit of Unrest made it in there too.

[Wed Dec 05 12:27:25 2012] You feel feverish. You have taken 30 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 12:29:28 2012] You resist the Spirit Strike spell!
[Wed Dec 05 12:33:44 2012] You resist the Affliction spell!
[Wed Dec 05 12:34:13 2012] You feel feverish. You have taken 30 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 12:45:09 2012] Lightning bursts through your body. You have taken 62 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 12:50:03 2012] You resist the Ghoul Root spell!
[Wed Dec 05 12:52:07 2012] You have been poisoned. You have taken 40 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 13:08:38 2012] You feel your skin smolder. You have taken 25 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 13:08:41 2012] You feel your skin smolder. You have taken 25 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 13:09:05 2012] You resist the DryBoneFireBurst spell!
[Wed Dec 05 13:09:56 2012] You feel your skin smolder. You have taken 26 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 13:18:43 2012] You resist the Ghoul Root spell!
[Wed Dec 05 13:35:54 2012] You resist the Force Shock spell!
[Wed Dec 05 13:35:59 2012] You feel your skin combust. You have taken 110 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 13:36:05 2012] You resist the Enstill spell!
[Wed Dec 05 13:36:10 2012] You resist the Force Shock spell!
[Wed Dec 05 13:44:12 2012] You have been poisoned. You have taken 6 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 13:44:59 2012] You feel your lifeforce drain away. You have taken 71 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 13:46:07 2012] You feel your skin smolder. You have taken 25 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 13:46:13 2012] You feel your skin smolder. You have taken 3 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 15:49:14 2012] You resist the Tishan's Clash spell!
[Wed Dec 05 16:02:49 2012] You have been force struck. You have taken 177 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:03:18 2012] You resist the Force Shock spell!
[Wed Dec 05 16:03:56 2012] You have been force struck. You have taken 177 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:04:13 2012] You have been force struck. You have taken 177 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:04:30 2012] You resist the Force Shock spell!
[Wed Dec 05 16:04:36 2012] You feel your skin combust. You have taken 63 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:30:36 2012] You feel your skin combust. You have taken 110 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:30:42 2012] You have been force struck. You have taken 177 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:30:47 2012] You are immolated in flame. You have taken 72 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:30:52 2012] You feel your skin combust. You have taken 110 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:40:05 2012] You resist the Force Shock spell!
[Wed Dec 05 16:40:26 2012] You resist the Force Shock spell!
[Wed Dec 05 16:57:18 2012] You have been force struck. You have taken 179 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:57:28 2012] You resist the Frost Shock spell!
[Wed Dec 05 16:57:58 2012] You have been force struck. You have taken 179 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:58:06 2012] You feel your skin freeze over. You have taken 172 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:58:13 2012] Energy races across your body. You have taken 92 points of damage.
[Wed Dec 05 16:58:26 2012] You have been force struck. You have taken 179 points of damage.

[Cippofra]

Casters are definitely far too powerful here. In Classic they were often weaker and made for an easier kill.

[SamwiseRed]

ive totally have been killed by green casters by taking them for granted.

[Splorf22]

[Sat Dec 08 11:08:18 2012] You have been struck down by wrath. You have taken 198 points of damage.
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[Sat Dec 08 11:24:43 2012] You have been struck down by wrath. You have taken 198 points of damage.
[Sat Dec 08 11:25:20 2012] You have been struck down by wrath. You have taken 198 points of damage.
[Sat Dec 08 11:25:57 2012] You have been struck down by wrath. You have taken 198 points of damage.

And here is Dramor vs a yellow Glyphed Forbidder in MM. 9/9 full damage with 50MR. (yes, I tried 4x to charm kill her and something always went wrong. I feel like Bards have to fight 10 fights correctly in order to do the same thing enchanters do).

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

imo, resists were rarely of value in classic, due to what people are wishing was the case here. If I had a wish list of things that needed redone from classic, making resist gear count would be near top of list. Sounds like that is what p99 did. Just suggesting that may be what has happened.

Resists were nearly pointless in original live. It was, like charisma, an unused stat. They fixed it. Deal.

[Cippofra]

In classic as a raid tank I had cheap sets of resist gear that were used quite often. It definitely made a difference and prices for it reflected that

[Xherez]

The key to killing healer mobs is casting interupts and burst damage. As a monk you are poor at both of those things but can give your self some options with a stun weapon like Adam club, or a high damage weapons like IFS.