(GM please read) Kanras: Removed extra tic from duration of most spells.

[Kelgar]

Bard dots last 3 tics and do damage 4 times, once at 0, 6, 12, and 18. This is how it always was on live. With the new change they are lasting 12 seconds, (2 tics) and only dealing damage 3 times. Mez/charm are not lasting as much time as they are supposed to, also 18 seconds (3 tics). Right now bard songs are lasting 12 seconds (2 tics), I have timed it multiple times, this is not right, please fix it.

[Lazortag]

Actually you're completely wrong:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=57246&

[SamwiseRed]

good find

[Lazortag]

Oh my god you're hilarious. You know one tick is 6 seconds right? So four ticks would be 24 seconds. If every bard song lasted 24 seconds you would be able to twist EIGHT songs at once, because it takes 3 seconds to cast a song. So you've contradicted yourself. As for the Bard dots, I posted so much evidence that they last only 3 ticks, so you're just being delusional if you don't acknowledge that. My evidence is incontrovertible, all you've posted are your own (incorrect) memories and attacks against the staff. As for Bard charm, I would love if it lasted 4 ticks, but you will never be able to find a classic source that agrees with you because you're just clearly wrong.

And you CAN twist four songs at once. Get good:

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[Sat Feb 25 12:33:49 2012] You feel protected from cold.
[Sat Feb 25 12:33:49 2012] Your song ends.
[Sat Feb 25 12:33:52 2012] The harmony surrounds you.
[Sat Feb 25 12:33:52 2012] Your song ends.
[Sat Feb 25 12:33:56 2012] You are more alert.
[Sat Feb 25 12:33:56 2012] Your song ends.
[Sat Feb 25 12:33:59 2012] You feel replenished.
[Sat Feb 25 12:33:59 2012] Your song ends.
[Sat Feb 25 12:34:03 2012] You feel protected from cold.
[Sat Feb 25 12:34:03 2012] Your song ends.
[Sat Feb 25 12:34:06 2012] The harmony surrounds you.
[Sat Feb 25 12:34:07 2012] Your song ends.
[Sat Feb 25 12:34:10 2012] You are more alert.
[Sat Feb 25 12:34:10 2012] Your song ends.
[Sat Feb 25 12:34:14 2012] You feel replenished.
[Sat Feb 25 12:34:14 2012] Your song ends.

Lastly, please tell me why the evidence I posted is invalid somehow.

[Lazortag]

Inb4 someone makes fun of me for the songs I've memmed, my UI, my hotkeys, or some combination of these things.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Kelgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps we got off on the wrong foot. When i say they last 4 tics, I mean they do 4 messages worth of damage, and mez/charm lasts for 18 seconds,

They are not supposed to do 4 messages worth of damage. I showed that they did 3 in classic. I showed this for every single dot except for Angstlich's Assonance, which lasts 10 ticks. Proof: http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...98&postcount=1

http://web.archive.org/web/200106110...st=6&mode=list

http://web.archive.org/web/200010180...asp?Class=Bard

http://crys.org/everquest/spells/bar...k=1&maxrank=65

The last one isn't a classic source, but since durations were never shortened it's valid.

right now, mez/charm lasts for 12, which means you can keep 3 mobs mezed, or 1 mob charmed and 2 mezed.

Nope. I can keep 4 mobs mezzed at once, and I frequently do. Then again I am the best Bard to ever live, but this should be possible for anyone. By the way, mez duration didn't change with the patch, neither did regular buff duration.

Point is, you can, in regular eq, twist 4 songs without a song fading. Now, in red99, you can only do 3, that is a problem. this isn't new information, you could always twist 4 songs.

You can still twist 4 on p99. See my post above.

[Autotune]

Jette > Giegue

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Kelgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

seriously lazortag, get on a bard on red99, and try to keep up four songs, it wont happen, the fourth one will fade while you are casting the first one again, where as before, you could start casting the 5th one before the 1st one faded. mez /charm are ending before they should etc, just get on and try it out, dont get on another server where this new patch hasnt been implemented, get on red99 and try it

Red99 and Blue99 spells are coded the same way, but sure, I'll prove you wrong again. Give me a minute since I'm not logged in now.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Kelgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok, look, it takes 12 seconds to cast 4 songs, at 3 seconds casting time each, but if you want to keep those songs going without one fading, you need 15 seconds,

you can screenshot 4 songs up if you screenshot at 12 seconds, but if you are going to keep twisting those 4 songs, you need 15 seconds to do it or you will have one fade every time

I was able to 4-twist without interruptions, so your theory is wrong. (edit: in other words, I was able to complete 4 songs and then restart that same 4-twist without a single song dropping)
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As for mez, I tested it out and I'm actually not sure whether its duration was changed. I could mez 3 with ease, but mezzing 4 was very hard. I think this is because in between having to target the mob, fizzles, stuns, etc. you'll get mezzes dropping, but it's possible the duration was just shortened because I seem to remember mezzing up to 5 mobs in some groups on p99.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Kelgar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

even with fizzles, you should be able to keep 4 mezed, but you couldnt finish recasting the mez on the first mob before its previous mez failed.

Actually sometimes I could, so it might just be the way the tick timer works? Either way it's like you can't read or something, since I acknowledged this in my previous post. Can we agree that you were completely wrong about dot/buff durations? Mez is the only song that might have been changed when it shouldn't have been. As for buffs, like I said, I was able to 4-twist without interruptions, and no songs would drop by the time the 5th one was done casting. Nothing was changed with respect to this in the previous patch.