P99 Classic vs Original Classic

[Gugg]

P99 Classic

- Professional traders in EC tunnel (EC tunnel is more like wall street or the goldman sachs HQ)
- Level 1 Twinks with the best items (including NTOV loot)
- Wiki full of spoilers, step by step guides, personal opinion, unverified data and item price dictation
- Min/max mentality (in a max/min game, ironically)
- Advance knowledge of camps, drops, patches, bugs, exploits, changes, etc before server launch
- Advance warning of server launch
- Porting corporation/monopoly (Dial A Port)
- Full epics for sale
- No duels
- Everybody you see is playing solo in their own little bubble
- Lack of spontaneity
- Nobody says DING
- Everybody that speaks in /ooc is already an expert
- Emulated code
- Digital download
- No subscription fee
- No Verant/SOE
- No original devs
- No castersrealm

Original Classic

- None of the above

 

Warning: the losers who are stating classic = objective term are the same losers who are stating everything = subjective. You will know who these petty losers are because they use deceitful words like "racist" and "misogynist" (childish name calling, point scoring) to make themselves look intelligent and caring. These hypocritical losers claim chaos is king yet if you train them or take their mob/raid slot they will call the police to have you banished.

[Bardp1999]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 Classic
- Level 1 Twinks with the best items (including NTOV loot)

Can't get i NTOV at level 1 so I disregarded your entire post, hope you find help IRL and stop raiding

[Ennewi]

[QUOTE=Gugg;3552781]P99 Classic

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- Wiki full of spoilers, step by step guides, personal opinion, unverified data and item price dictation

All of it entirely optional. If ignorance is bliss, abstain from using it entirely.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- Min/max mentality (in a max/min game, ironically)

Undermined by fashionquest.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- Advance knowledge of camps, drops, patches, bugs, exploits, changes, etc before server launch

Subject to change, whether on purpose or accident, thanks to continued updates aiming to preserve the spirit of classic.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- Porting corporation/monopoly (Dial A Port)

It's still a shame Tell-A-Port never took off. But on a server that has, on occasion, seen quite low pop numbers it's helped stave off demands for translocators.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- Full epics for sale

Not equipable anymore until level 46.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- No duels

Several guilds host arena fights. Also, duels also still happen when people need to hammer. The recipient of the beating tends to take the opportunity to fuck with the other person somehow, not just slowing to help them proc. I like trying to disarm them; did it to a dwarf outside of ToV the other month, twice in a row.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- Everybody you see is playing solo in their own little bubble

Treating an old MMO like an RPG can make it more classic, esp if you cut yourself off from buffs, cheap gear, etc.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- Lack of spontaneity

Quakes, GM illusion bombs, and xp bonuses.

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- Nobody says DING

Some still do on occasion, esp at low levels, and receive grats. More rare are shouts announcing the arrival of the boat.

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- Everybody that speaks in /ooc is already an expert

Experts arguing with each other over which is the best shaman race, warrior main/offhand for aggro, etc.

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- No subscription fee

https://www.paypal.com/donate

$9.89/mo

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can't get i NTOV at level 1 so I disregarded your entire post, hope you find help IRL and stop raiding

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[Gugg]

Ennewi's Quotes...

Regarding the "Wiki"

All of it entirely optional. If ignorance is bliss, abstain from using it entirely.

It's not optional when every player is checking Wiki for prices. It's like telling me bad news is optional in a world which revolves around bad news. It's not optional, it's mandatory.

Ther was NO WIKI in the original classic.

Min/max

Undermined by fashionquest.

On P99, money making > eyepatch.

That's why there is an entire guild DEDICATED to porting for plat. It wasn't like that in Original Classic, there was no Dial A Port, everybody was too busy having fun making new friends grouping.

There's an entire industry on P99 dedicated to selling Jboots MQ for 5kpp. Real players can't get their own pair of Jboots on P99 the old fashioned way like they could in the ORIGINAL classic era...there's too much competition from commercial sellers camping the zone. This selfish business mentality destroys classic.

Advance knowledge of the game prior to P99 launching

Subject to change, whether on purpose or accident, thanks to continued updates aiming to preserve the spirit of classic.

In Original Classic, players didn't have advance knowledge of what was to come. It was all new to everybody. Advance knowledge destroys the spirit of classic. Some players on P99 have used this advanced knowledge to permanently corner the market and make a name for themselves.

Epics for sale

Not equipable anymore until level 46.

Irrelevant. Players in Original Classic didn't buy epics.

Duels

Several guilds host arena fights. Also, duels also still happen when people need to hammer. The recipient of the beating tends to take the opportunity to fuck with the other person somehow, not just slowing to help them proc. I like trying to disarm them; did it to a dwarf outside of ToV the other month, twice in a row.

Duels in EC tunnels don't exist like they did in the original classic era. EC tunnel is pure business, there's no fun going on there.


Everybody playing solo

Treating an old MMO like an RPG can make it more classic, esp if you cut yourself off from buffs, cheap gear, etc.

In Original Classic, everybody grouped and loved it. They didn't play in a bubble.

Lack of spontaneity

Quakes, GM illusion bombs, and xp bonuses.

Players in Orignal Classic were more carefree and spontaneous. Players on P99 are very serious and business-like. P99 is a business orientated environment and business has no heart.

Regarding DING

Some still do on occasion, esp at low levels, and receive grats. More rare are shouts announcing the arrival of the boat.

Some...as in somebody once in a blue moon and nobody responds anyway.

The lack of boat shouts on P99 is proof players are less caring in P99 Classic. It was definatley friendlier in the original classic. There was more humanity. P99 lacks humanity.

Everybody's An Expert

Experts arguing with each other over which is the best shaman race, warrior main/offhand for aggro, etc.

Attention seekers and drama queens argue, real experts agree.

No monthly fee

https://www.paypal.com/donate

$9.89/mo

I never used PayPal during classic. PayPal sucks. Will I get race & class fixes aswell as AA's for my subscription fee?

[Andyman1022]

We need @DSM and @Loramin to chime in here please.

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Andyman1022 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We need @DSM and @Loramin to chime in here please.

Loramin ain't original classic, neither is his innacurate wiki.

I am, I was there. I camped my epics, I grouped, I raided, as it unfolded in real-time, and without Loramin's wiki to teach me parrot fashion how tie my own shoe laces.

I learned on the go, and discovered things for myself just like we all did. We spoke in-game and had fun together, we didn't sit on Discordd waiting for a sale to come through.

There wasn't anybody back then telling us to check the wiki like there is today.

[Encroaching Death]

I remember my friend twinking his brand new DE warrior in 1999.

A full suit of Bronze armor and an Executioner's Axe.

I was in awe and he looked amazing.

[Gugg]

Originally Posted by Encroaching Death [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember my friend twinking his brand new DE warrior in 1999.

A full suit of Bronze armor and an Executioner's Axe.

I was in awe and he looked amazing.

Full rubicite was considred godly back then.

On P99 though, I killed some brutes for gems and purchased an item which drops from a L62 mob so now my low level Ranger has a Frostbringer which isn't supposed to happen.

I mean, it's fun being a low level twink with a weapon beyond my reach but it ain't classic. Commercial sellers dedicating their life to killing high value targets for profit isn't classic...that's exploitation of advanced knowledge.

[Encroaching Death]

Originally Posted by Gugg [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, it's fun being a low level twink with a weapon beyond my reach but it ain't classic..

Lower Guk is beyond the reach of a level 1 Dark Elf Warrior.

That was in 1999. I believe that was Classic era.