Camps Defined?

[Kinamur1999]

The way it works now seems to be a group can only claim camp on what they are literally sitting on.

The past few days I have had several groups sit up literally just around the corner in a dungeon and say that it is a separate camp, Literally choking off all spawns in an area except for the 5 or 6 in the room were in.

This morning we were doing unrest basement, sitting in the room before fake wall, pulling down into garanels area. Didn't seem like we were taking multiple camps as we only had 4 people in our group and were waiting on respawns. After 2 hours a lvl 50 mage run through and starts clearing down to garanel, our shaman went afk for 10 minutes. We petitioned that they were ksing and the guide favored them because we weren't officially in his room camping him.

Does this make sense?

[Finawin]

It's bullshit and the rules obviously need to be tweaked to remove gray areas in the rules to be exploited by people to benefit their thievery.

I have a 50 mage too, shall I go around jacking named from people just because I can? It's illogical to force groups to sit on top of named spawn points that are typically dangerous spots just to deter thieves.

It's obvious people can't be given any room for error in the rules when defining. They will be assholes and exploit any gray areas possible because they are terrible players.

[Hasbinbad]

If yer not physically at a spawn, what makes you think you can lay some kind of claim to it?

Serious question..

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If yer not physically at a spawn, what makes you think you can lay some kind of claim to it?

Serious question..

I can field this one. Take Frenzy for example. Most people don't camp "in" the frenzy room, they camp in that room between frenzy and thatothermobthatescapesme. I've also known groups to camp Ass/sup from that stair between there and sav...no spawns there, or in that tower.

However, my opinion is this: Those that steal camps based on the "rules" will soon be beaten by their own karma. I'm not saying a 50 has no "right" to camp a mob, they have as much right as anyone else. I know who is involved in this, and this isn't their first time using these particular tactics. And yes, I view it as a jackass move.

By that same token, when your healer has to pee or whatever that pretty much slams the breaks on your xping/pulling.

[Ferok]

^ Pretty much the response I expected on this.

There's always technicalities. People can choose to exploit this, and they'll be in the right technically; but that doesn't make them less of douchebags.

That old saying about what goes around...

[Sword]

So what they're saying is you need to stfu and let IB camp what they want for their endless alts for guides and devs owners will always favor them so stfu already and wait for them to twink their alts.

[Kinamur1999]

Originally Posted by Ferok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That old saying about what goes around...

What?

Comes around? Sorry Ferok but you must be new to the server its do whatever the F you want and as long as that specific incident isnt written in the rules its not a problem.

[Shamaeso]

It is funny how if someone wants a camp all of a sudden the group gets trained out of nowhere then the person says he wiped group means the camp is clear, and honestly how many people dont camp a hall outside a named.

People on this server tend to act like bullies because they know there is nothign can be done except naming names and what good does that do.

[Ferok]

Originally Posted by Kinamur1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What?

Comes around? Sorry Ferok but you must be new to the server its do whatever the F you want and as long as that specific incident isnt written in the rules its not a problem.

I am new to the server, so you've got me there.

But I'm not new to the game, or camps, or the concept of camping. Honestly, people were dicks on live too. There were technicalities, and people who were dicks exploited them.

Lets imagine a world where the rules were more favorable to the "area" camper. The only difference in this case is that the dicks would be on the other side of the coin, claiming and petitioning for things that they really have no right to.

I sympathize with your position and with what happened. At the same time, I acknowledge that rules aren't perfect. However, they're probably a reasonable compromise between opposing sides on this debate - and that's really all you can ask them to be.

[Virtuosos]

if im camping an area, then im not going to let some other group try and take it....they can come in and sit IN the room while my group sides out, but i wont stop pulling and ksing them...i was in that area first, not those jackass's