Calming Rooms in HS

Barlu · #1 06-07-2018, 04:06 PM

I recently come back after a long break and been messing around with my 57 Enchanter in HS. I have been doing mostly North so far and have been having some issues with Calm. I seem to remember if you calm 3 out of the 4 mobs in the first room down the stairs on your left you could pet pull or pull the 4th single with Tash.

Since I’ve come back, I have Calmed 3 of the mobs in the room and attempted to pull the 4th and get multiples almost every time. Has the agro radius on Calm been reduced or am I doing something wrong? I seem to recall both pet pulling or Tash being able to grab singles with everything calmed. I definitely don’t think it’s a time thing either. I’ve calmed them all with only 2-3 resists before trying to pull and still getting adds.

Anyone know what I might be doing wrong? Thank you all for the help.

enjchanter · #2 06-07-2018, 04:33 PM

I'm assuming you're talking about the boss room in north.

Also are you specifically using the "Calm" spell or rather lull / pacify / soothe?

Iirc there's 2 mobs right near the door, a roamer that paths up the stairs and 5 mobs around the "stage" including the boss/ph.

So I'm assuming you're killing the 2 by the door and the pather and then lulling 3/4 mobs in the stage area to pull the boss/ph mob.

If that's the case, I'm not sure how your getting adds unless you are doing something besides what I explained. What you describe is very vague and I would need more details to elaborate on it.

I have more hours in HS than is healthy for a non robot so I'd be happy to lend you my 2 copper pieces [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Barlu · #3 06-07-2018, 05:13 PM

Thanks for the reply and sorry for being so vague. I’ll take all the help I can get. Have earned quite a few deaths so far trying to get back into it.

I was talking about the southern most named room (#3 on the map). I am targeting the mobs through the wall or using bind sight then casting Calm (not lull/paci/soothe) until it lands. After Calming all but the mob I want to pull I have tried both sending in a pet then backing it out and also just using Tash and trying to run back to the ramp. This has happened multiple times now where I am still ending up with 2-3 mobs coming out.

Do I need to Calm all the mobs including the one I want to pull? I can’t tell if I’m doing something wrong or if it’s just unlucky. Thank you and curious to hear your thoughts.

enjchanter · #4 06-07-2018, 05:43 PM

So just to clarify: you're calming 3 of the mobs in that room and then sending a pet you acquired on the single mob you did not calm before the 3 minute duration of calm is up on the other mobs and are still getting adds from that specific room when you aggro it ?

If you're still getting adds from #3 on the map even with calm on all the other mobs then that is truly odd because the only way that could happen is if your pet or the Mob you aggroed Is literally running through the mobs you dont Intend to pull.

You are ensuring that calm is sticking and paying attention to which mobs you have calmed?

I dont mean to sound like a rude IT guy but I'm trying to trouble shoot because it sounds like a puzzle piece is missing.

Also, be aware, there is a pather that paths in a circle through that area constantly and there's also another pather that goes in between the other 2 rooms that could possibly be socialling aw you pull out.

Para99 · #5 06-07-2018, 05:52 PM

Are you trying to pull the named PH or the mob that paths out into the hall first?

If you are trying to pull the named PH and it paths right over top of the pather that will cause the pather to add probably 80% of the time.

If you are trying to get the pather first, if you are waiting until the pather goes into the room and he's standing to close to the other mobs he can aggro them. Tash him when he's in the hall.

Both of these apply to any camp, not just HS. You'd have to use Pacify, which is generally not a good spell, if you want to pull mobs standing "on top" of each other, it reduces assist radius a lot more than Calm.

enjchanter · #6 06-07-2018, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Para99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Are you trying to pull the named PH or the mob that paths out into the hall first?

If you are trying to pull the named PH and it paths right over top of the pather that will cause the pather to add probably 80% of the time.

If you are trying to get the pather first, if you are waiting until the pather goes into the room and he's standing to close to the other mobs he can aggro them. Tash him when he's in the hall.

Both of these apply to any camp, not just HS. You'd have to use Pacify, which is generally not a good spell, if you want to pull mobs standing "on top" of each other, it reduces assist radius a lot more than Calm.

This is kinda what I'm thinking as well

Tecmos Deception · #7 06-07-2018, 08:59 PM

If you want a change of pace, at 57 you really can break that room just yoloing your pet in there to eat HTs, then spam back off into the hallway and aoe mez, he breaks one, back it up, use aoe mez to keep stuff locked down while pet deals with one at a time. Use aoe Tash, roots, don't slow just let your pet die, etc. You don't get full xp for the whole room, but you can break it up decently very quickly (and quite safely really, cause you won't get resists on squat at 57). Then you're set to pull singles on repop and get full xp.

Even 3-4 at a time shouldn't be to hard to get full xp for most of them though, thanks to c2 and tot (maybe wm even too).

Some of my favorite xping ever is doing that stuff in North. Big fights, fast pace, lots of CC. At that level charms and roots hold well, nukes and mezzes don't resist, you've got berserker spirit and rune 5 and a bunch of stuns so you're tough as nails really. Only killer is not paying attention to respawn timers when youre already pulling a whole names room at once. Even pet breaking charm as he aggros the whole room is no biggie cause aoe mez will catch all (or almost all) of them before they get to you because of those nice hallways to keep distance in.

Barlu · #8 06-08-2018, 07:19 AM

Thank you all for the feedback. I haven’t been killing the one that paths in and out first and have been Calming him and everything but the named/PH then trying to pull name/PH first. Sounds like I need to grab the one in the hall and not drag over top of him. I have gotten as many as 3 adds and the only thing I can think of is that I have messed up my targeting. I am Calming from the ramp Incase of crit resist so I will make sure my targeting is correct next time.

Tecmos thank you for the advice and I pull like that quite a bit when duoing with a healer. Having watched a bunch of you videos you do a much better job than me using lvl 4 root and still staying on top of keeping the ball of mobs AoE mezzed and rooted after a charm break or an add from behind. I’ve been using Paralyzing Earth instead to give me some more time on charm breaks and AoE mez wears off. Works great when they are all positioned properly but annoying when they aren’t rooted close enough.

Thanks again for all the help!