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Old 11-14-2016, 04:58 AM
BarkingSpider BarkingSpider is offline
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Default Feel like I have too much downtime as a Necro? Lvl 16-17

Hey guys not sure if I am doing something wrong or not, I've been soloing in Oasis since 16, I actually just hit 18 a few mins ago. My normal rotation on blue mobs is Engulfing Darkness > Fear > Heat Blood > Fear > Send pet (mob @ 60% hp) > Fear 1-2x depending on HP. If it's even con mob, Ill do the same thing except I'll add a Heart Flutter after Heat Blood. I usually always send pet in around 60-65% hp because if not my dots won't last to duration and I always feel like I get less EXP if I don't.

The soloing itself is fine, easy, no problems. However each time I kill one mob, I use like pretty much 50% of my mana. So I'll kill 2 mobs and then have to wait a few mins to regen back up. I am keeping Death Pact up 24/7 by the way.

Just wondering if I am doing something wrong, or if there is a more efficient way to be leveling?

Also on a side note, I am so tired of seeing crocs and caiman, are there any other places I can go to solo at 18? I've been in Kurns and Unrest and they're often pretty packed and don't have room in groups without having to waiting an hour or more, so I usually just try to go solo somewhere so I don't feel I am wasting time.

Thanks!
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Old 11-15-2016, 12:04 AM
Lhancelot Lhancelot is offline
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It depends on your gears. My necro had a lot of hp gears during low levels. I melee'd mobs a lot with a smoldering brand.

I usually sent pet in, put a dot or two on, then sat to med as long as possible. Once my pet got lower hps I would then melee taking aggro off my pet.

Obviously when you facetank the mobs you will need to use taps for heals sometimes.

I used fear for fun at times, but honestly at low levels I found killing more efficient meleeing.

This also kept my defense maxed, which was helpful.
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Old 11-15-2016, 01:51 AM
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From levels 12 to 49 you need to take a close look at mana cost for your DoT's, the damage they do, the speed you can cast spells, the duration of the fight, and that breaking point where you back the pet off at the last 15-18% of health so the DoT's do the ending damage (or as close to it as possible).

It takes a lot of experimentation and it's worth taking the trouble to do so. Once you have a general feel of the absolute necessary spell damage required to get full exp while at the same time casting as few Fears as possible, you begin to get into the groove of efficiency.

Whenever I would crest into a new line of DoT spells, very often I found myself not using them but instead relying on my older DoT spells depending on my target mob's health. You probably already know this, but try to get a Kromzek Spyglass as quickly as possible as a clickie item to reset spell gem recovery for the fastest chain casting of spells. I think at your level I was content to kill 4 mobs total before going into a mana recovery break.
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Old 11-15-2016, 02:36 AM
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Seems like you're on top of it to me. It does depend on your gear, this server is very twinky so I would guess most players are wearing + INT gear with the richer ones straight mana/hp gear. Necro like shammy usually keeps mana and HP near each other and whatever the camp allows.

I think my lineup on mobs for my necro was pull with darkness/blood depending on situation, sick pet, looking for a pet bash to get off first fear clean. Add lifesteal dot and only enough dots to get it dead.

If you have friends and/or time you should get this item. http://wiki.project1999.com/Words_of_Darkness It frees up spell gem for mana/hp spell, instant cast so you can use for spell reset, useful till 34.
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Old 11-15-2016, 05:01 AM
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You will need to use much less mana in a group... just saying. And a necro can do nice things for a group, even at your level. Just don't try to dot every pull, mobs usually don't live long enough for that to be effective.
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Old 11-15-2016, 06:59 PM
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BarkingSpider - if it's any consolation, I run into the same issue with my Necro. Noticed it cropping up around level 10, and then it just kind of stayed around through 18. I do admit that the level 16 pet is much tougher than the level 12, but it can only do so much. And I do recall the same thing when I had a lower level necro before I left EQ back 14 years ago.
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Old 11-15-2016, 10:25 PM
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When I levelled my necro I stopped soloing around 20. Went to High Pass, then High Keep, then at 34 I started soloing with my new fear, root, better lich line spell, and it was a blast. Necro is really stagnant from about 20 until 34 because your best fear sucks, you don't have a good lich spell, and out damaging your pet is mana intensive.
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Old 11-16-2016, 01:47 PM
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The 20's in general are kinda shitty for necros(well until 29). You don't get any dot upgrades and as someone said, trying to outdamage your pet uses up a good bit of mana. I had to group from like 26-29, it was just faster.
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Old 11-16-2016, 02:25 PM
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I am currently stuck at 27 trying to find the motivation to push through to 29, but I keep making alts. Alts seem to be the story of my life and I don't even have money to twink them!
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Old 11-22-2016, 07:35 AM
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The necro class is very tough at the lower levels. For me it changed once I got my Jboots, because from then on nuke-kiting became an option. There is a barbarian camp at the coast in the Karanas very close to the Qeynos zone. I did this Einhorst McManus guy until 30something if I remember correctly. The Aviak camp in South Karana was also nice.

I don't know how the game plays out these days, because in the old days you could give your pets two fine steel daggers and it would cut down their attack-delay massively. The level 49 pet with these daggers did way more damage than a level 50 monk with Cloak of Flames. Once they fixed that, the necro class became rather unpopular to the point when it was even tough to find a group.
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