More rules sucks. it won't kill p99 , but this can...

[Turp]

Hello this is a post about this server and its future. Coming from a 15+ year EQ player. These are my thoughts to the new rules (and old) and new threats arising.
I originally wrote this in a RNF post but after reading over what I wrote and editing out the flames , I decided to post it here in server chat. It really deserves more attention then being stuck in the back of a rnf thread.
I guarantee if these issues are not dealt with or looked into then it will slowly kill the current servers that so much of us love. Results are easy to see , it is as simple as a 2+2 when you know how this shit works. Servers dying are inevitable , but I feel the speed will pick up if this stuff is left unchecked.

Since having a variance of 16 hours (non classic) I've seen a lot of people leave due to burnout and yet new ones come.
BUT ( You only have a limited amount of these players , before you run out)
It sucks and is very likely that in the future this will be looked at as a main culprit in "killing the server" and honestly this high variance probably kills real people in real life. (change it , it is unhealthy , it is unclassic) .
With GM recently stating they want more variance and "will not lower it" , then I guess we will have to deal with it. Even 10 hour variance would take the edge off and literally save lives both in game and RL. They don't have to remove it , rather modify. By all means though , do the server as you wish, you made it. I just play.

The Killer ... The "dagger to the heart of p1999". I am using killer instead of killers because I'm sure at least 1 (or more) of these will fall short. But really common sense should ring your bell here. with so many daggers being thrown , 1 is bound to strike a deadly blow. This is just a little dose of MMORPG 101.

1. Pantheon - EQ1 version 2.0? will see. It is going to be hard for a new company to match the fear factor of classic EQ. Mainly due to the carebear generations being raised. And corporate greed. I will say this though , I would rather play with a Casual p99er > Carebear all day.

2. A new Project 1999 blue / red with accurate Timeline. This is more a savior than a killer in some aspects but eluding to the current two servers , this would be a dagger to the heart. It could be 1 month or 1 year etc. , Doesn't matter because it WILL decline the current servers until only a crazy person population would remain. Unless new custom content was released which it has been talked about but highly doubtful ... I think a big factor would be will they still keep 16 hour variance and would they have some GM events.

3. Camelot Unchained - More of a red killer

4.Uthgaard DAoC again - more of a red killer. Another unlikely scenario but I would definitely (if i was in Rogean's shoes) push a hard coded teams 99 before Uthgaard release because Vallon zek in 1999-2002 ish was the shit before Sony decided to allow X/Cross teaming.

There are more but these are the ones to worry about. These threats could be combated and could be beaten.
BUT With the decline of staff presence we have seen over the years.
I guess the real question would be WILL staff even consider putting up a "fight"?
They do not get paid , so it is very likely these threats will go unchallenged.

What do you think?

[Sancta]

The only thing on your list that might reduce the pop on p99 is Pantheon which, keep in mind, is in early early alpha.

I don't see any project willing to replicate P99. So far P2002 and/or takproject are past Velious by 2+ more expansions and IMO their boxing policies shoot themselves in the foot. I really believe many more people would play on those servers if the boxing policy was similar to this server.

In regards to DoAC being a red killer - can't kill something that is dead, ayy. I played there, it's like 130 ppl on a good day?

Like the post. +1, fun to speculate.

[Turp]

Thanks. Appreciate the response.
I think You kind of misunderstood. Because the project for sure will live on. It is the current servers that I was speaking of. They are already so top heavy and no more content coming. In fact content has actually been removed (the sleepers dragons). That it is inevitable the current servers are gonna die out. It is a matter of when not if.
Top it off with some 16 hour pull your hair out variance that I would wager if you took a legit in game poll would be voted down. I don't want big poop socks, and am not asking them to remove it. Just tone it down. It was ok in kunark but it is very over the top in Velious.
If it was not voted down (very unlikely) that would be because the casual guilds fail to realize a lesser variance would in turn give them more loot. (getting off the topic you mentioned sorry , But I will say my point on this subject in particular is very strong and being a veteran mmorpg gamer I have seen it all (well except virtual reality EQ or really any fantasy MMO VR. can you say ...YES PLEASE?)
Again not saying remove variance. just saying...
a lesser variance = more attempts at dragons for the casual p99 player. PERIOD.

I was just trying to maybe get them to take a 2nd glance and slow the death , rather than ignore the aforementioned and the end result would be the speeding of the death of the current p99 servers. They can very easily make new p99s and this stuff honestly (at least for me) would never get old. It is called Evercrack for a reason : )

I agree with what You said "red is dead", now some don't want to admit that.
Those that do not are the true hardcores mixed with people I mentioned above aka crazy. I think even the red players that are sane can agree with that. An why let Uthgaard and Camelot take and immerse these players in some real fun pvp (played daoc and EQ for years. They are both very fun , and the teams pvp of EQ classic era IMO was better than DAOC realm wars , but if u got a bunch of time spent on another server you are more likely to stay there.)

It is also more than likely that they will throw this out as an attack or rant when in reality it is just the truth and an attempt to greatly slow the death of what we currently have.
This is not an attack and is in fact the exact opposite. I am calling for a Defense.

[Pokesan]

Full spawn length variance with skips

Competition is important because reasons

[khanable]

96 hour windows.

make these swollen ankle diabetes motherfuckers die of congestive heart failure while staring at a wall for 96 hours

[Turp]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

96 hour windows.

make these swollen ankle diabetes motherfuckers die of congestive heart failure while staring at a wall for 96 hours

Lol is funny to me but also sad. Because You and I both know...
If the boys in charge did what you said , than what you said would also occur. But seems like they wanna live under a rug around here [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] and in the process are killing off people both in game and out (at least I hope it is unintentional). Has to be burnout. If they do not want to address the issue. Than IMO why not pass the torch or recruit some help?
Or Ask the people playing your server?... is it easier to label it as a rant and log it under the rug? Maybe. But will under the rug cause a mess? For sure. So enjoy it or speak up.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

96 hour windows.

I think that might just kill someone, not even joking.

[Turp]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that might just kill someone, not even joking.

It would be like a lot of people jumping off a high building at the same time.
aka suicide. or murder? nah I do not think they do this intentional. So manslaughter? Yea maybe. How is that even a maybe, yet I still do not see the subject getting addressed.
Unless we stop the trolling ( future posters , I posted the same thing in RNF flame it there ) and post serious shit here. Than maybe we will get a answer as to why they still do 16 hour variance.

I guarantee that...
16 hour variance has killed people. It is not like that would be reported or a posted stat that variance on p99 caused problems that lead to death. It is wrote off as whatever sitting on your ass for long periods leading to death is called (i think it has many different names and options to take)
Most of us know not to sit that long but when you put a game server up. A game nick named ever crack , jack it up on some 16 hour+ windows that require real crack to track. You are going to be unintentionally killing people that do not know better.
I really wonder what the response would be to this accusation? "they should of known better"?
If Sony had did this than yea maybe the news would catch on. But a private emu?
No damn way the media would care enough to post about it.

Lets say they make the argument that my variance = RL death is just tin foil hat. blah blah. Well OK but with what I just mentioned above you can easily conclude this...
At the very least you are putting some people in poor health or near death .
all it takes is lower something they made from 16 to 10 or 8 and in return some people will not die or catch some crazy shit?
#LowerVARIANCE and #SaveTheNeckbeard2016

I can't believe I even have a solid foundation to stand on in this variance argument because it really is so off the wall bat shit crazy that it was not lowered by now.
#truthISstrangerTHANfiction

[Pokesan]

Kill the poopsockers.

[Pokesan]

It used to be about competition. Now every self-described "hardcore raider" is bitching about variance like an entitled millenial.

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