State of Red 1999

[Grandbeard]

Well it is 6 PM Eastern on Friday February 12th and there is a grand total on 97 people on the server. I have been a member here for a few months and sadly the server population seems to be in steady decline.

So that got me wondering if there are any plans down the road to restart the whole server from scratch with a heavy promotion push. The reason I bring this up is because of other games that have done this. Shadowbane used to wipe some of their servers every couple of years to allow new players a chance to jump in on a level playing field. Those servers became the most populated servers because it did allow new players a chance to compete.

As it stands right now, basically this server is in decline and I see no way that it will rebound in its current state. With twinks relentlessly pking new players in lowbie gear, over and over, it makes playing for a lot of new people, pointless.

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[Baler]

People losing interest and core members sticking around until the end of time is pretty standard in the EMU scene. I'm actually kind of blown back by the number of people who are unfamiliar with how a emulated server fairs over the course of time.

On the subject of doing a wipe so its a clean slate for new comers. You'll piss off vets/ once in a blue moon players and some of those people may quit. Is that worth the few new people who join?

Edit: also 90 people online and none of them are boxxing,. I'd say population is fine. Could be a helllll of a lot worse.

[Grandbeard]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People losing interest and core members sticking around until the end of time is pretty standard in the EMU scene. I'm actually kind of blown back by the number of people who are unfamiliar with how emulated server fair over the course of time.

On the subject of doing a wipe so its a clean slate for new comers. You'll piss off vets/ once in a blue moon players and some of those people may quit. Is that worth the few new people who join?

What players? The server is dead. Most zones have 1 person in it. At some point the server will become irrelevant. Is that the goal here? I thought the goal of P1999 Red was to be a PvP server, not a ghost town where twinks endlessly gank the few new players who join the server, over and over.

I get that some days (raids) can have a better population but more and more the server is heading down the path of "why bother logging in". PvP requires people to play, quality PvP requires that there is somewhat of a level opportunity for players to engage each other.

I can't imagine that a lot of the remaining core pvpers wouldn't love having a server population of 500 - 600 players. I bet there would be huge interest in this from all kinds of players. This would be even more potent since WoW is losing so many players due to the state of PvP in the current Xpac.

[NarcolepticLTD]

#RedLivesMatter

[Spit]

Server is literally the same since last year

Cross server trading being disallowed hurt people even bothering to try it out , let alone make the switch

Much of the negatives people from blue see in red such as potential griefing / being completely out geared is made up by fast xp rate and open zones and camps.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Grandbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What players? The server is dead. Most zones have 1 person in it. At some point the server will become irrelevant. Is that the goal here? I thought the goal of P1999 Red was to be a PvP server, not a ghost town where twinks endlessly gank the few new players who join the server, over and over.

I get that some days (raids) can have a better population but more and more the server is heading down the path of "why bother logging in". PvP requires people to play, quality PvP requires that there is somewhat of a level opportunity for players to engage each other.

I can't imagine that a lot of the remaining core pvpers wouldn't love having a server population of 500 - 600 players. I bet there would be huge interest in this from all kinds of players. This would be even more potent since WoW is loosing so many players due to the state of PvP in the current Xpac.

There are plenty of advantages to play on red then blue and see how much that attracts people? EQ was never ment to be a PvP heavy game and was never balanced properly. 17 years later with the advancement of true PvP gaming EQ pvp just looks that much worse and not even worth investing the time in doing it. Red was basically where a few true EQ PvPers went, all the blue outcasts that had been shunned off the server went, people who wanted to abuse the economy of a low pop server that you could trade back and forth with blue server to make free money and maybe even RMT. Thats what red is.

[Spit]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are plenty of advantages to play on red then blue and see how much that attracts people? EQ was never ment to be a PvP heavy game and was never balanced properly. 17 years later with the advancement of true PvP gaming EQ pvp just looks that much worse and not even worth investing the time in doing it. Red was basically where a few true EQ PvPers went, all the blue outcasts that had been shunned off the server went, people who wanted to abuse the economy of a low pop server that you could trade back and forth with blue server to make free money and maybe even RMT. Thats what red is.

I would agree with abusing the economy to go back to blue with tons of plat as that was my initial intentions on red when the huge population boom happened in 2014 October , but honestly pvp really isn't that bad and once I got my first 60 toon I never looked back

There is still MUCH pve to be had on red, but I completely understand that it's not for everyone but to not try it or give it a shot based on forumquest and speculations isn't very good

[Daywolf]

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[Grandbeard]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are plenty of advantages to play on red then blue and see how much that attracts people? EQ was never ment to be a PvP heavy game and was never balanced properly. 17 years later with the advancement of true PvP gaming EQ pvp just looks that much worse and not even worth investing the time in doing it. Red was basically where a few true EQ PvPers went, all the blue outcasts that had been shunned off the server went, people who wanted to abuse the economy of a low pop server that you could trade back and forth with blue server to make free money and maybe even RMT. Thats what red is.

When I started a few months ago the population was 170+ during peak every day I logged in. often it was well over 200. Now it is under 100. So sorry this is not how it has always been, even in the short term.

I am not for cross server trading because I think it destroys the integrity of the server. That said, someone twinked with 300K in gear mowing new players down in MM or Unrest is by far the most pathetic form of PvP. Especially when that person does it over and over again.

Then you have the people training because they are OOR from their victims. This is not pvp at all yet seems to be rampant.

I played through it which is the way I am.

[Spit]

Originally Posted by Grandbeard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I started a few months ago the population was 170+ during peak every day I logged in. often it was well over 200. Now it is under 100. So sorry this is not how it has always been, even in the short term.

I am not for cross server trading because I think it destroys the integrity of the server. That said, someone twinked with 300K in gear mowing new players down in MM or Unrest is by far the most pathetic form of PvP. Especially when that person does it over and over again.

Then you have the people training because they are OOR from their victims. This is not pvp at all yet seems to be rampant.

I played through it which is the way I am.

No offense but even coming from red if the server lacks one thing it's integrity

There was a lot more cross server trading done for people to level up characters to not grief rather then to make mm and unrest twinks. Even then you're out of that level range within an hour, maybe MM a tad bit longer